If you yearn for life on the open road, putting in the miles through the hills and dales then our folding road bikes are just the ticket.
If you yearn for life on the open road, putting in the miles through the hills and dales then our folding road bikes are just the ticket.
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It’s great to hear about this type of brainstorming. I work in new product development myself (though not for bikes), and it is wonderful. I just hope the same brainstorming is being applied to BF’s marketing and distribution. In Boston, I have been delighted to notice small-wheeled bikes turning up everywhere – finally, people are realizing that compact bikes can make cycling a great option for urban commuting. But almost all those bikes are Dahons, because that’s what the downtown bike shops stock. Dahon has its place – I owned one once – but there are a lot of people who would be blown away if only they had the chance to try a tikit.
Just to set the record straight, a unicycle is a direct drive.
Regarding hills, Bailey Hill is a wee beastly. Last time I did it fixed I was second up with the Bike Friday lunch ride.
Gimpl Hill, on the other hand: always first.
I always feel faster on the flats, too, assuming an appropriate gear & cadence. There’s a simple reason: the wheel wants to keep turning forward despite gravity’s pull downward. A standard wheel just coasts.
I think the appropriate term is conservation of momentum.
Bottom line: there’s a lot more logic to fixed gears than people assume.
OK, direct drive. My bad. I’m just the marketing guy.
But people, do you see the knowledge our Bike Consultants wield? I learn something new every time I listen to them. It’s worthwhile to call.
Nice article. I’d like to know how your llama is set-up compared to mine and maybe a map link or similar reference to give me ideas of places to go? I haven’t used mine much for trail riding and it’s way too flat around here for a whole lot of that anyway. I do like the idea of opening my llama and me up to a whole new set of adventures.
Thanks, Dale
Nothing really special about my Llama for trail use aside from the Thudbuster seatpost and Big Apple tires. The Llama itself has a higher bottom bracket for more clearance on the trail and can take the wider tires up to 2.25.
Where are you located? The trail I rode is in Oregon.
Really enjoy the fresh layout. I really liked the content. Many thanks for a great posting.
Merle’s art has been gracing the covers of my zines for years–and his cute comics have found a place inside my publications as well. Whether it’s a Great Blue Heron, a Harley, or an exasperated marsupial, Merle can draw it all.
Unfortunately, the Like function is not hooked up to our blog at this point. One of the things we’re working on.
Love hearing these stories. Great photos.
I haven’t ridden fixie in over two years ago now, but this series of posts has got me itching for it again.
I don’t have a Tikit (yet), so I’m curious what happens when the bike is folded and rolled around? Actually, looking again at a photo, the bike is rolled on its front wheel, huh?
It rolls on the front wheel, and rather easily. Simple, just like a fixie.
Bring back purple! ( You guys KNOW this already right?)
Ditto on the purple. Purple rules!
Dear Friday Family:
Just a note to anounce the proud owner of #1249 is alive, well – and still enjoying the New World Tourist my wife Winnie gave me as a retirement gift in 1994. Guess I was among the early members of the Friday fraternity. I have only positive memories of rides and countless miles in Ohio, New York, Indiana, Florida – and now North Carolina – and of course, one of the coolest treats is responding to inquisitive fellow riders and pedestrians about the Friday family.
Dr. Jerry Hopfengardner
Grenville, NC
YES, Please bring back the PURPLE before my custom Pocket Llama is RASPBERRY finalized in Autumn!
…. “I’m just saying”
If you guys are in Portland, you should make the trip up to Victoria! Those look like awesome traveling bikes and we’d love to have ya!
Thanks for sharing this Steve. Those of us in the factory send these bikes out into the world hoping they’ll facilitate experiences like yours.
When news gets out that the new metallic electric purple with tiny little sparkly bits in the paint has arrived at Green Gear, i see a convoy of Llamas and Tikits slowly, purposefully moving towards the factory, all eager to be re-sprayed in the color they should have been the first time around, Best to just simplify things and set up a PURPLE production line! It’ll make things much easier in the long run.
Nice to see some else with a Bike Friday enjoying the nice weather that the north island NZ has been having — enjoy your training rides
Dude! it’s PP
Wonderful
I’m waiting for the bike bike friday sent to Thailand
Glad you liked the photo!
Do you have a link to more?
Just Max is ok 🙂 I’m from Thailand also. We don’t usually use nickname in place of firstname when writing it with lastname. So either just Max, or Chaowaroj Wanotayaroj. I’m not upset or anything, just a FYI.
For the record, I didn’t get a chance to pass many, but I enjoyed every moment of it when I got one 😀
Now I want either a bigger chainring or an alfine 11 for my next (hopefully half-ironman) tri. Don’t wanna spend too much getting a new bike.
@patiphan ขà¸à¹ƒà¸«à¹‰à¸‚ี่สนุà¸à¸™à¸°à¸„รับ 🙂
My apologies. I will fix that. Thanks again for making Bike Friday look good!
No problem. I actually think it’s painful for the reader to see my full name all the time so I thought you’re gonna change it to Max everywhere. Well, it’s fine either way.
Congrats on a great ride, Dolores! I am very impressed.
You Rock!
Just wanted to add my congrats on a great summer of travel! I know someone locally who road a ways along the big sur area with you and he was impressed as am I. Thanks for sharing too. Wonder what your next ride will be?
Dale
Thanks for sharing your summer of adventure with us! I’m very impressed!
Wait 40 more years Carol and I’ll be happy to race against you!!!
Sheesh, if only…
Carol,
You are an inspiration!!
This Tandemonium Band Practice is wonderful.
After being married for over 27 years and owning a tandem for 26 – I can attest to the bonding power of a ‘bicycle built for two’. Our first years of marriage without children saw lots of riding on an old, 5-speed tandem. We talked, shared experiences and enjoyed riding as hard or as little as we liked together and never got separated on a trail. When children came along, we added a Burley D-Lite trailer and proceeded to wear it out over four children and 12 years of use. When the children moved on to their own bikes, we have upgraded to a Family Tandem. Now it goes where we go in town and when traveling. It’s been an awesome bike and we still get lots of looks as we ride the bike “with the funny little wheels” past children, teenagers and adults. It’s been a delight to ride and Bike Friday has truly made themselves our sole source supplier by the bend-over-backwards attitude! Keep it up!
We’ll expect Prismatic Purple soon then! 🙂 keep working on that!
Your personal crusade: Purple. Love it.
Can’t help it, I’m a designer. I Like exotic colors. Might settle for Black Narcissus.
That would be black with little sparkly bits in it 🙂
For now I’m enjoying my new Season Tikit in Merlot.
Test rode the Tikit at Portland Sunday Parkways. Amazing little machine. I must have ridden 20 miles starting at 11am (getting things set up and checking on logistics), on the tour with folks from all around the Portland region who are thinking of bringing Sunday Parkways to their town, out to Cully to check on the traffic plan, and then back to the Durham Marketplace at the very end of the day. Everyone wanted to look at the bike, but most of all, it was an incredibly good ride. I wasn’t fatigued, and it felt like I was riding my “regular” bike – only better. Love the ease of getting on and off and that it is so light-weight. Thanks to Rez for setting me up. You rock!
Our pleasure, and thanks for creating such a great event. We love coming up to Portland any chance we get.
Thanks for the mention! The trip was great and I was really impressed with how well Samara kept up in spite of the smaller wheels. She even passed me a few times and I was on my entry-level racing road bike! Thanks for letting us borrow the bike, you might have to pry it out of Samara’s hands when she returns it =]
Wow!
I have tears in my eyes from reading the Hailey bike build blog.
Way to go you guys!
I knew there was more to Bike Friday when I bought my Pocket Lllama. I didn’t just fall in love with the quality of the ride or the fit or the color; I fell in love with Bike Friday the company.
Keep up the good work(s)!
Sincerely,
Seth Parsons
Thanks for the wonderful words. We attempt to put our heart and soul into every Bike Friday we build. That, you can count on.
Awesome story. I just found this and yes I like to read your stories. I gotta say I am not a reader however when I start to read your writing it sucks me in.
Thanks RAZ I enjoyed the story as well as the photos!
Kirk
This tour was awesome! Beautiful weather, flat eastern NC roads, and of course my favorite bike – the Tikit! Riding my Tikit takes me back to a time when riding a bike was purely for fun. The fact that it folds is simply icing on the cake. First and foremost, it’s an awesome bike that rides as good or better than my traditional bikes. I plan to ride this puppy until the wheels fall off!
Nice Bike!!!!!
Hi, are you planning to offer the NuVinci as an option for the ordinary consumer? Why did all the people who trialled it like the NuVinci so much? is it not too heavy?
Thanks in advance, Doug Austin
NuVinci is available on the tikit, New World Tourist and Pocket Llama. Simply talk to a Bike Consutant.
The NuVinci hub weighs about 5 pounds, but most people who ride it find that its advantages far outweigh, literally in this instance, its weight.
When you are riding, the weight is displaced so you can’t feel. It might come into play with a tikit if you are folding and lifting a lot. However, I rode the NuVinci in New York and had no trouble lifting it to get into the subways, etc.
Thank you Rob; I have now a little more feel for what is behind my Pocket Rocket Pro Custom. Having in my teens seriously competed in Southern California and made it to the nationals, it seems that acquired riding refinement and love of attention of details in equipment never leaves one, and therefore, that need is satisfied in my Bike Friday while also opening many new opportunities for extended use. I must confess that when out riding it, I start testing my snap, and find it to be there, and it feels right to kick out of the saddle (racing lingo) – I was not expecting that. When assessing stiffness (in riding position putting force on pedals with wheels locked and observing amount of pedal travel) there appears a fair amount of flex, but, what with the very long stem in the power line, I accepted that as a compromise. If you have been that successful in completive in hill climbing, obviously however, the bike does not compromise power transfer. Although I possess a good level of technical riding development, in use of my PRP I wish to suggest to others considering the compact chain ring set 50/34 with the Capero 26-9 to be right on target for gearing for sport riding. I tend to ride a high cadence with 170mm cranks. Is nice to have those two lowest gears from the 34 chainring when the hills get extreme, or when pulling a loaded trailer; and spinning in the 50/9 is actually very well as fast as I ever want to go on this bike. Riding just the big chainring and skipping along through the 10 Capreo cassette cogs works very well.
In cooler weather, I like to kind of tweed up on my PRP, but not slow down. Waving to passing riders in the other direction, I chuckle at the sense I get that they seem to not know just how to respond: where does this rider, dressed in knickers on that shinny small wheel bike with drop bars, fit in the scheme of things? I think I want to go out and ride now.
WOW!!! I am so inspired!! Thanks for the great write-up Rob! I have never owned a BF and have only been riding regularly in Feb this year. I wanna get a BF soon so I can maybe do a little touring with it. But I am still not sure which BF model I should be getting. Any advise?
Thanks Steven,
The choice of bike for touring depends on your destination, load and type of roads expected. Personally, I travel light (about 25lbs of gear with camping stuff), and relatively fast, and have done all my touring (Europe, US, NZ and Australia) on my Pocket Rocket. I have found the 1-1/8″ tires suitable for gravel and dirt roads as well as paved surfaces. If you are carrying more weight (which I would question; so many people carry far too much stuff!), then the wider tire options of the 406 wheelsize on the NWT and Llama would be a better choice. And if you will be in more remote locations, this tire size is commonly available, whereas the 451 size from the PR is harder to find.
I have toured on several different bicycles, and have found the PR to be by far the best. The small, stiff rear triangle gives little or no pannier ‘wag’ to the back of the bike, whilst the long cantilevered seatmast provides a degree of passive suspension for comfort in the saddle. Likewise the curved stem will take the edge off road vibrations being transmitted to the handlebar. The small wheels are inherently stronger than larger ones, so with a sturdy set there is no worry about broken spokes. The only downside could be tire wear, but it is easy to carry a spare (when I rode cross country I chose to use fast tires (Schwalbe Stelvios), and wore out the rear tire in 1600 miles. I carried a spare and had BF ship me additional tires part way).
Generally on point to point tours I fly in with the bike in the travelcase, then mail the case to my destination, then it is ready for the trip home when I get there. If you tour on a BF, just be prepared to answer the small wheel questions everytime you stop to refuel!
There are details of my various trips, and a kit list of everything I carry on my website at: http://rob.bikerevuk.com
needs more red. (too blue)
I love BF. This is not purple.
naw..pretty but too blue. Purple needs to be PURPLE!!! More like Merlot.
i like it… is it available for all fridays or just the tikit?
It is not available on any bikes. Yet. We are testing various purples as a possible new color for 2012.
Jinx, jokes, you owe me a coke!
I sent this earlier…it said it had to be moderated and now has disappeared?
thanks,
Dave
NOPE !….A real Deep Purple….like the skin of an Egg Plant would be cool. This one looks like some bubble gum I bought as a kid.
Not actually a true purple – like the paint you had to discontinue. However, is a pastel, and pastels are good – both toned and bright. You are on the right track – extraordinary colors for an extraordinary bike; this color says just that. I could go for a bright pastel lime.
If my dog gets “away” with it .Why can’t I ?
As others said this probably isn’t what people have in mind when they think of purple. It’s too ‘ milky ‘ looking. Doesn’t do a Bike Friday justice because it’s too toy looking. Something a BIT darker perhaps. The color needs to have more depth. More Angelina Jolie and less Lady GaGa. 🙂
To add to Performance that packs….Fitness that Folds!
YOGA FRIDAY
At about $1,000 per pound reduction, it should fly.
Said the Bike Friday: Anything you can do I can do better…
Hallo,
it will be great if you can show how you connected the chariot to the Bike Friday. I have that problem at the moment an couldn`t find a good solution with any Weber hitch. Which hitch do you use?
Thanks a lot
Sebo
Very nice article and great photos!
Thank you for shairng the adventure. Your spirit for exploration and discovery comes out in the story, and brings to mind my own passion for riding. I love the fact that Bike Fridays are made in the USA, and in Eugene, OR not less. I’m very interested in trying a Bike Friday. It’s on my list of things to do when the weather gets better!
Every time I view BF pics, I have thoughts of moving to OR. Absolutely beautiful scenery surrounding a BF bicycle.
I enjoyed the black Llama pic with the “dirty tires”… IMO it sells “the BF Image” better than if the bike was clean. Instead of displaying a “showroom queen” in the middle of no-where!
…. And one can never go wrong with a dog. I really like the “Ridgely w/ the Llama folded” pic.
I look forward to installment #2.
Looks wonderful! Bring it to Phoenix. It’s great riding this time of year and we and our RV and Tikits are having a blast
Miss you all. Bobbi
Hi Mr Yang,
It must be very beautiful places and scenery to cycle with your Bike Friday. Must have enjoyed the trip. Hope to have the chance to ride with you someday. I just got my pocket companion bike recently and also enjoyed riding the bike. I am from Singapore and like to have this opportunity to cycle Taiwan, such a beautiful place.
Regards
Seah Yong Sen
From Singapore
What brand is the triangular bag? I have been hunting for a nice way to store clothes on my Air Glide and this looks great.
The bag is a new design for Bike Friday by Alan Scholz that should be available later this year. Stay tuned for more information,
Hanz,
When you decide to upgrade to something new I want first dibs!
Question, though: Until Rob English & Co. put together something even MORE outrageous, is an upgrade possible?
And even if/when they do engineer something (assuming Hanna is anything like my daughter as a business person), how are you going to get it out the door past your capable General Manager? Being a “founder” has its privileges; but when Pocket Rockets reach that level of sophistication you may be pushing a savvy, well-trained business gal’s limits. . .
Regards.
Merl
I am very impressed by your tour, and on top of that by the shoes you show on a picture, which apparently use two soles!!!
Can you tell us where you found them, because they look very appropriate for this type of voyage. Thanks.
Still looking to get a Bike Friday
0.5 to 1.6 is only a span of 320% (1.6/0.5). My Air Friday with Rohloff hub (525% range, distributed in 14 gears at uniform 13% steppings) gives a range of approx 22 gear-inches up to a nice tall 115 gear-inches. Oh to have a Gates carbon drive….. drool, drool…. Roll-on Rohloff!!
Correction: NuVinci => 1.8/.5 = 360%
…
But that still doesn’t approach the 525% of the Air Friday’s 14-speed Rohloff hub which is such a sweet machine that it’s often hard to decide between the Air/Rohloff and the full-size LiteSpeed/Campy alternative….. Roll-on Rohloff !!
From Rob English:
Because the Rohloff is mostly underdrive (direct drive is gear 11), the gear range you have now can’t be matched. With 60×20 (the biggest Gates gear ratio) on 406 wheels the Rohloff gives 16″ to 84″. Plus, of course, we don’t currently have a 20″ bike that will accept the belt drive, and on the tikit with 16″ wheels the range drops to 13″ to 70″.
That doesn’t look such a bad range of gearing for a hilly commute. What we’re looking for now is a Gates/Rohloff set-up on a New World Tourist. It’s a design problem that needs to be solved.Go to it! If you can manage it I’m up for two next year.
Oh, rest assured we are working on a solution to make belt drives an option for our Pocket bikes, too.
FROM ROB ENGLISH:
This issue with the 20-inch wheeled Pocket bikes is having a unified rear triangle for the belt, but then still enabling the bike to fit in the suitcase without removing the rear wheel. There just isn’t room! Alan and I have been discussing possible new designs to achieve all the goals, but I can’t put a timeline on when development will go further.
I suppose Bike Friday’s philosophy is that every bike should pack easily for travel. But we only travel with our BF tandem. We use Pocket bikes for commuting because they’re nimble, compact, lightweight, and high performance, and you can throw them in a trunk if you have a flat or mechanical breakdown. For non-tikit commuters, carbon drive would be great, and we’d be willing to accept compromises on packability and folding speed. I can understand if that’s too far out of the BF mainstream, though.
What would be involved in retrofitting a carbon belt and variable drive to my Bike Friday?
I’ll have Rob address this question as soon as possible.
FROM ROB ENGLISH:
Currently the belt drive is only available on the tikit. To retrofit on a currently owned frame would require at minimum a new rear triangle, plus the rear hub, wheel rebuild and the belt drive parts. It may be a better option to trade in an older tikit and get a completely new belt drive NuVinci bike.
What do these components look like? Pictures please.
Dusty
NuVinci news release
Gates news release
You write:
This issue with the 20-inch wheeled Pocket bikes is having a unified rear triangle for the belt, but then still enabling the bike to fit in the suitcase without removing the rear wheel. There just isn’t room!
I have an Air Friday, and packing it in a suitcase has always required removing the rear wheel. So why is this a big deal? Fixing a puncture also requires removing the wheel. It has to be easy … is that the design problem?
I’m also used to packing an Air Friday so as long as there’s a way of dropping the wheel out and re-tensioning on replacing it, packing into the case would be no extra hassle. However, I do use the quick fold + beam removal when packing into a soft bag for train travel. I guess the quick fold would be less quick but if the other design problem (removal and re-tensioning) was solved (presumably an eccentric bottom bracket and/or re-designed dropouts won’t work, I could cope with the extra inconvenience in order to have Rohloff and Gates. And as I get older that 16 inch gear is looking attractive.
Hi, clearly I’ll have to wait for my next Friday to get a belt. Right now, if I’m stuck with a chain, I was wondering if you have any nuvinci built up wheels I can buy to replace my Sachs 3×7 wheel on my circa 1999 bike. I would likely have to get an eccentric BB or a single speed conversion chain tensioner. Have you guys been involved in such a project?
— David
We’ll see what Rob has to say.
I just read about the bag. It sounds like a neat idea.
A quick website recommendation …
Could you increase the resolution on the pictures? Many people — old owners as well as potential owners — attempt to look for details on the bikes or new items and the relatively low resolution photos make discerning anything meaningful difficult.
Thanks for your time and consideration.
hope you make it to ABFC Inc before long to tell your stories.
Our blog is at:
http://Www.myfamilycycles.blogspot.com
I was there! A big thank you to Chris for the excellent adjustment to my disk brakes. Glad to see you all at Sunday Parkways and hope you make some more of them.
David
Nice article Raz. What would it take to convert a Pocket Crusoe with a SRAM internal 3×9 to NuVinci?
We’ll turn to Rob English for an answer, and get back to you as soon as we can.
Here’s the word from head designer Rob English:
You would need a new rear wheel with the NuVinci hub (which includes the
shifter), then you could use the existing rear derailleur as a tensioner. This assumes
you already have flat bars or H bars, since the NuVinci shifter won’t fit on drops.
Thanks Rob. Leaving the long cage derailleur on seems like a shame. Does replacing it with something more purpose-built introduce other complications?
Patrick.
One of our four select bikes is the New World Tourist Infinity Tour NuVinci and so far all those who have test-ridden this bike have commented on the quietness and ease of changing the “gears.” I am going on a 200 km tour with 10 other riders and can’t decide which of the demo select bikes I’ll take: the Llama, Pocket Rocket, Future’s belt-drive Tikit or the NWT NuVinci. I guess for the new and wow factor the NWT NuVinci is great, but for overall comfort, the Llama with Disc brakes and Big Apple tires would be better. But your article has made me think that the NuVinci might be the one. Thanks for your insights. Keep them coming, Raz.
From Malaysia,
Doc Andy
Quick note to everyone that Doc Andy is our dealer in Malaysia, thus he’s a kid in a candy store. I personally own a Llama, sans disc brakes, but the New World Tourist with the NuVinci is sweet. You can’t go wrong.
Raz,
Indeed, I feel like a kid in a candy store. However my own tikit is out of the question as I think bigger tires are better. Pros and cons:
1. Llama, large frame is my size, at 6 ‘ and 220 lbs. easier to sell a less-used demo.
2. New, smooth nuvinci hub, has attachments for the trailer., medium frame nit big enough for me?
3. Pocket Rocket–light and fast, have 3 requests to borrow for races, but if used would not be an ideal demo for short test-ris.
4. Future Tikit–belt drive means lighter weight, but disappointed no hyperfold.
So the ride is this weekend, advised not to take my family tandem traveller and can’t take a recumbemt trike, Azub Tricon, so I am leaning to the Llama or NWT. What will it be?
I’m impressed! I think I would stick to the part of the trail around Belknap Hot Springs (smoother and well… right next to the hot springs). You should try out Flat Creek in Oakridge. I think the Pocket Llama would do really well on that trail.
Good point. The lower portion of the McKenzie River Trail is very rider friendly. I’ll have to check out Flat Creek. Oakridge has plenty of great trails.
are you ever coming to the Washington DC area?
Actually, the past two years on our way to New York we have stopped to visit our dealers Mt. Airy and College Park.
I totally agree. I recently took delivery of a tikit with a nuvinci hub and it is an amazing ride. I call it my tikit2infinity
John,
I was sent your link from Aubrey from the Als Oregon foundation. I have been recently diagnosed and as a result I bought a nice bike and am riding in the ALS ride on the 14th, while I still can. I am attempting the century.
Me, I am 48. 2.5 years ago I decided my former athletic self was sick and tired of being non-athletic and began to work out regularly and eat “better”. I lost 50lbs in 6 months and am still doing the same.
I honestly think God gave me that chance to get my crap together before I face the full fury of this disease. I am in the best shape of my post 30 year old life and would not like to imagine my body trying to compensate as it does try to with the additional weight and poor conditioning.
I still work out most every day…so far. Though I have toned it back a bit. I have my peeps and I love the circuit class I attend. It allows me to get a great workout both on my body, and my mind as I can taunt/tease/interact with the rest of the people there. This will be something I surely miss going forward, when it happens.
Your story touches me and I want to reach out to you. I think I know what you have been and are going through. When people say they will pray for me, I am grateful, and always ask them to also pray for my family. Whom will go through Hell and then have to get on with their lives after all…
best regards,
ken
Good luck to Xiangyu! I have been riding my Pocket Sport in Shanghai since last November, and although there are tons of folding bikes here (mostly cheap Dahons in various states of disrepair), I have yet to see another BF.
My experience corroborates Alan’s advice. Years ago I drove a pace car for local club races in Brooklyn. The racers were divided into the Cat 1, Cat 2, through 5. It was a very cemocratic group; bike messengers on their day off to investment bankers and lawyers. The bikes ranged from dumpster specials with no two parts of the same brand name to $2,000 “wonder bikes” (this was in 1992, when a $2,000 bike was a rare object of beauty). There was no correlation between the rider’s place in the peleton and the fanciness of his bike. Also, universally, the first upgrade was a good set of wheels and tires (in those days tubulars still ruled).
I needed a headset tool for my Bike Friday in Cuba on a recent trip. I was about to have a metalworker I had met there in 2002 make me one, but was able to work things out with a pipe wrench and a big crescent, both of which took a long time to find!
I like the “incremental” concept. I assume that if I buy a Bike Friday, that you can upgrade ihcrementally over the years, yes? That is, you are recommending starting with frame and saddle and “budget” components (if needed). Then coming back in 1 year for wheels and in 2,3, or 5? years when I want to upgrade from “steel to alloy” or otherwise improve the bike as I wish and can afford later?
Yes, that would be a good course of action.When you work with a Bike Friday Bike Consultant, we ask what your budget is and attempt to find the right bike to fit your needs and budget.
I have just started looking at foldable bikes. I see the weight of the bike listed, but I have not seen the weight the bikes will carry. Is there an average weight foldable bikes will hold?
The amount of weight a bike can carry is more a function of the rack than anything else. With our rear racks, you can carry 65 pounds. Front racks 25 (30 for tikits0.
Thank nou so much for writing this. I am planning on returning to London for the Paralympics and I thought: Why not take my Bike Friday? After all that is why I brought it in 2004?
Have been visiting France for years, from Australia. The Bike Friday lives at the Home of my sister in Col de la Forclaz. A 13% climb included in the 2004 Tour de France
Rae Wells
Canberra Australia
I want to make the same trip in September of next year with my Tikit. I would love to get in touch with anyone from this group to ask for suggestions. I will be traveling alone so I would appreciate any tips.
this is a really charming and enjoyable blog to read. Thank you for writing it.
Bill
Thanks for your nice story. I love riding my bike Friday here in the states but look forward to taking it over the pond for some adventure like you described above. Thanks again for sharing your story!
Jacob, this is AMAZING! I love the Q and A part. I want to copy and paste and use it on my blog
Of course!! I’m sure you can think of more great questions to add as well
I am so sorry to hear that these bikes were stolen. Please let us know if you find them again! The program with the school is a great idea and I hope the bikes are found so it will continue.
Awesome shop video strongly featuring the Bike Friday!
Hope my Silk is not Beta tested; oh well then, okay for everyone to try it. Although the Alfine hub is not a submersible, and therefore not really totally water proof, I understand that you can just drain and replace the gear oil bath (basically a transmission oil change). Wonder if the hub wheel bearings are easily accessible for repack. The Silk fame seems quite adaptable to be configured either as mountain bike or road bike. From my mountain biking experience, the problem with submersion riding (like riding down the Coyote Canyon Creek) is that of cartage bearings, especially on the bottom bracket which, cannot be repacked, and are not easily replaced. One really nice mountain bike had grease injection plugs for its bottom bracket (hint hint). I understand based on a post over a year ago, that Rob English has been racing on a frame similar to the Silk: with a rear fork, rather than seat/chain stay triangle. So this rather radical new frame design is fairly tried and true. It makes me want to ask if that dampens the ride a bit: does the rear fork give a bit of a suspension without detracting from pedal power transfer? Seems as though it might. Also looks as if there is frame room on the Silk for me to put on the fattest 451 tires for to taking it off pavement, and the frame and wheels can hold up fine. If there is some slight loss of efficiency with the belt/gear hub drive train, it could be made up for, I should argue, by always being in the right gear at the right time. Derailleur gears may offer greater efficiency with less weight, but demand a great deal of maintenance and replacement to keep it that way – especially when used in the wet. So now you have essentially a foldable commuter bike with 20-inch wheel performance. As soon as everyone there is finished riding my purple Silk with drop bars and Alfine 11 hub, please send it to me.
To think of it now, the Alfine 11 hub should be fairly water-tight. If in deed it is an oil-bath lubrication, then it must be oil-sealed, and therefore, rather impregnable. It is the Nexus that, being grease lubricated, is not sealed against submersion, and would need repacking. No matter how heavily greased is a chain, it is a mess when getting wet. Or else it starts wearing quickly, stretching, and will cause all the sprockets to be in need of replacement. Chains are high-maintenance, especially with derailleur gearing. That is just one thing I like about the belt. Have thought the Carbon Belt system might be vulnerable to mud or snow build-up causing it to jump and be damaged; whereas sprockets can push through the chain spaces. However in a race under heavy mud/snow conditions had even one-speed chain-cog drive trains clog and fail, where the Gates Carbon Belt drives were unaffected.
Hey Matthew, great to hear your working with Bike Friday and great to read your bike testing story. The Silk sounds like a dream of a bike. I still ride my old Miyata on the Saint John River Road here in New Brunswick. I wish I could justify buying a Bike Friday Silk, but old age is catching up with me. I recommend Bike Friday every chance I get.
Keith Helmuth
Thanks!
In looking at the Silk frame design I wonder if it precludes the use of rim brakes and rear racks.
Nope, both are available. Most of our Silks have disc brakes to make the convenience package complete.
Matthew, thanks for sharing your impressions with the Silk. I’m new to folding bikes, but I’m really pondering to get one (also, since I need to new bike).
I am still a bit concerned about the durability of the bike, especially when I stand up from the saddle and lean onto the handlebar with my weight (I’m 6.1 ft and 165 lbs). Can do this with the Silk like to do with my normal bike (trouring/cross bike)?
Matthew is busy building Bike Fridays, but I can tell you that our frames are guaranteed for life. We’ve built Bike Fridays for individuals 7-feet tall, weighing up to 280 pounds. They are built for the long haul.
Thanks for your response Raz. I am really getting anxious to try out the Silk.
It should be noted that the Silk appears to come standard with the heaver rider frame. I still have a body weight in the lower 140 lb and I would of course not worry about my Silk frame. I recently marveled at how good my Silk took to a stretch of gravel road – until taking a pinch-puncture. With no rear triangle, the Silk looks rather fragile, but I recall an article by the Silk designer: Rob English, a Cat 1 class racer, discussing racing with a Silk configuration prototype bike. He was winning top-level hill climbs. Thus I do not think the frames have an inherent weakness. I have detected no instability in my Silk. Although the Silk is intended as a utility, touring bike, it also feels good to get out and hammer with it. I would not hesitate taking it on rough terrain, or getting out of the saddle to really push a climb. I think one can safely not hold back riding it. Go ahead and try to break that frame. The Silk I would venture is as sturdy as any bike. It seems well suited to standing out of the saddle to give it everything you have. Before long, you will consider the Silk a normal bike: I think – correct me if I am just hooting.
Stuart, thanks for your feedback. Good to hear more impressions from a Silk owner. I was not really concerned about a frame, but more about the stem, when I get off the saddle. I am now in contact with a retailer here in Germany, so I can get some hands on experience.
It is so gratifying – and surprising – to see how cycling is such a common ground, in the diverse cultures of the world. As a Tweed rider, I very much appreciate this.
Nice article and photos, I love my Tikit Infinity too and find it very practical pretty much everywhere. The only thing I wish was a better gear range, now I’m waiting for my Infinity Silk and I see what I can do or don’t 😉
Having trained in competitive cycling, I retain the skill of pushing out of the saddle, as it is called. I have found that the Silk for some reason, invites me to do that. Without much thought, I have found myself pushing it out of the saddle (no not getting off and pushing the bike), and am surprised at how natural it feels. And even with a custom fit stem. I would notice if there were a lot of flexing, for the response would be noticeably soft, but, it is not soft. Although the frame is heavier and more durable, the bike seems to want to take the slams; there seems almost a shock absorbing character. That may be why it does not feel abusive to jump the bike off curbs. Wonder if that is related to the unique design.
Send catalog via E-mail if possible!
David Tacheny
That’s a fantastic story from start to finish and I enjoyed reading it. I’m glad Mr. King helped out to ensure our Tikit stems are configured optimally. Thank you Mr. King and Bike Friday!
Press On, Richard. I’m 75 and I still ride my Bike Friday even in these hot Texas temperatures.. You have a lot of good years ahead.
Thanks Scott, that’s inspiring to hear.
Our Northern California temperatures have been rivaling even Texas lately.
Well done Richard, can you tell me the chainrings/sprocket size?
At 91 I still am riding; hope you do the same.
Congrarulations Richard and Scott for hanging in there. I too ride my Bike Friday regulary, usually 20 or so miles, at the ripe age of 86 and I plan to continue !!
I had bought a NWT years ago and loved it. Then for some foolish reason still unknown to my rational thinking, I gave it to a friend that lives 6 hours away. I am so sorry I did that and will regret it for years to come. I am getting ready to move from NYC to North Carolina by the end of the month Aug. 1st 2013 and will not get it back. My heart breaks. But I have promised myself that when I move and get a new job and save up ( I am a registered nurse) that I will buy myself a new NWT or one like that for commuting but instead of the blue I had, I’m getting black. I am so excited about the thought of it and just wanted to share that with someone!! Take care and happy travels, Margaret currently in NY and missing my cool Bike Friday!
A gimps at the life behind the bicycles now made in USA. Things are looking good. One must say that Richard will go down in history as one stepped in at a pivotal moment to uphold the innovation that will bring about future bicycles, as well as the rebirth of United States bicycle manufacturing.
Funny how the wife thought the aero suit and timetrial helmet strange, but not the riding of a 20″ wheeled folding bike.
I like riding my PRP because on it I feel the way I did (feel is important here) when I was 17 and could almost not be dropped when I rode with the best in the San Diego Bicycle Club.
I had a NWT I bought through Steve years ago. I foolishly gave it away to a friend, I cry as I write this. Anyway I am moving from NYC to NC before July 1st 2013. Once I start working there I will start saving for a new one for commuting to this new job. I am probably thinking of getting another NWT because I don’t like the 16 inch wheels of the new silk. Anyway I look forward to your e catalog. Thanks so much, Sincerely Margaret Goodwin currently still in NY- Staten Island
I meant August 1st 2013 I will be moving to NC.
My favourite riding partner is my wife. We usually ride at 18-20 Km/Hr, which is slow, as most riders pass us. We talk, laugh and see the chipmunks scoot across the road ahead of us.For us it is all about the journey, not the destination. There is nothing wrong with competition, but since we are all going to the same place eventually, we prefer to take our time getting there.
Keep riding and do enjoy the journey.
Regards. Richard and Edna Kelly
Comfortable riding position.
So many people, it seems, assume that the head- down position is the “best?” way to ride.
We are not racing, so why not sit more upright, accept the 0.5% less aerodynamic speed restriction and arrive more comfortably?
Just one more thing to like about my Tikit.
That is one of my favorite roads. Down towards the bottom (before the switchbacks) there was always a stretch of trees over the road which on the right early spring day gave off the most beautiful tree-dappled sunlight.
I’ve been looking at this bike for some time and wondering about–well about the weight, of course. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to a test or even a visual look-over of the Silk, so I appreciate your review very much. Can it possibly be true that all the extra weight of the steel framed BF plus the Nuvinci don’t have an impact? Not even the knees?
Maybe I’m not the best test ride for this since I’ve never paid that close attention to the weight of a bike. That said, I expected it to be a more difficult ride than my Pocket Llama, but it wasn’t. Then again, the last time I rode up McKenzie Pass was on a GT i-Drive, so that certainly wasn’t a lightweight bike. That said, I did climb on a Super Pro earlier this year on a steeper, shorter climb.The Super Pro was sub 16 pounds. The Silk isn’t in that class, but for a bike that can take a touring load, it sure performed well.
That is a buncha bike bits in a box
Neat wrapper.
Hoping some of those bikes are recovered from the heist of a fleet in a trailer. It is a start for education. It is a valuable skill and knowledge that is not possessed by a large portion of our “educated” populating in the United States. In some European countries, bicycle education is part of early schooling. The children in Holland, for example, can ride as if they know what they are doing: smooth, straight, and in tune with the rest of the traffic in the bicycle lane or bike roadway.
Hi,
when the OSATA and cargo top secret bike will release?
J-F
Soon for the OSATA. Not so sure on the Haul-a-Day.
For some other examples of kit airplanes, see “Hobby Field”, at http://www.efn.org/~hkrieger/hobby.htm
Is this a carry-on?
Yes, if you are the pilot. However, it isn’t small enough to qualify as a carry-on for a regular airline. Sorry.
Dear BIKEFRIDAY owner, when I worked as a Lufthansa Captain until 1999, my BIKE FRIDAY
(#819) travelled with me on the flightdeck many times. Now I see that there is some space for those lovely bikes on all kinds of airplanes, congratulations!
I was there, and I saw this demo! It prompted me to take a spin on a couple of these bikes, too. An amazing experience, I must say. I didn’t want to get off of it. I’m definitely planning on one or two of these for my RV-7A when I get it finished. 🙂
Any plans for Bike Friday to get back in the ‘bent biz?
Sorry. Not at this time.
Hi Steve, your trip sounds fabulous. very scenic and nice to be off busy roads. riding in the Alps sounds so steep but seems you managed it with ease. Bikefriday should give you a free bike for all the excellent advertising you are giving them. i’m interested in a bike trip some time before June 2014. what did you have in mind?
cheers. sally
Thank you, Steve, for such a wonderful description of your trip, the photos, and how the Silk handled the terrain it was on. You’re motivating all of us who read your journal.
Encouraging read. Can you say which internal hub and the size of the front and read pulleys? The fear of mountains on a pannier-laden Silk has made me afraid to get one.
I have an Alfine 11 hub which worked perfectly the whole trip. The pulleys were 55 on the front and 24 on the back. Apparently you can get a 26 tooth rear which would make the hills a lot easier and I have contemplated getting one if I do another big trip.
Like you, Steve, the spec just grabbed me. I travel with my bike a lot and all the felt packing bits supplied with my previous NWT were covered in oil etc, so as soon as I read about the Silk I knew I had to get one. I sold my NWT and ordered the Silk with great help from Walter at BF. I picked it up at the factory in Eugene last month and rode the 400 miles back to Victoria BC through Oregon & Washington. What a delightful – quiet – ride! BTW if you’re going to change the rear cog you may find you will have to install a belt with a different number of teeth. And remember to change the oil after the first 1000 kms
Sounds like a good trip, Bruce, one I hope to make one day! I have been assured that I should be able to get away with the same belt with a 26 tooth pulley so I have gone ahead and ordered one. I’ll make a further post once I have fitted it. Already changed the oil but apart from that maintenance has been minimal.
It is a real picture of Hollywood.
wow! Soooo wonderfufl! i would love to have someone to do that with!! HOw fabulous. thanks so much for the story. Make it longer next time!
I should have asked how many miles did you do each day? how did you find where to stay?? did you book ahead? thanks
Dear Eugenia and Peter, Those who have trekked on bicycle know it’s the best way to travel. Congratulations! I wanted to bike to my 50th reunion in Texas, but it didn’t work out. Besides, it’s really hot in TX in May. Your northern route sounds better. I have traveled W. Europe several times; it’s a great way to immerse yourself in the culture. If Chalice reads this, perhaps she and I could discuss such a trip. Send email to Hannah Scholz at Bike Friday, mention Joe E. from TN
How can I get information about the group mentioned for those over 50? My husband and I travel by bike most always self-contained but being over 70 now, we would like to lighten the load a bit without having to use motels every night.
email okay.
Thanks
Great story about your birthday trip!
This is a great story, Eugenia. It sounds as though you and Peter are living the good life.
My 24 year old son, Nick, and I will travel from Vancouver, Canada to the Mexican border, just south of San Diego, California, in October 2014. While I have a traditional touring bike, I am contemplating a Bike Friday, especially to help with the air travel portions of trips.
Best within to you and your husband. I am 54, but hope to be riding long tours into my 70s.
Randy
Rochester, Minnesota
Hopefully, my 80-year-old
Strong just like you
Thanks so much for the mention Bike Friday people. I could never have met the goal without my amazing Pocket Rocket (my first BF) and Pocket Rocket Pro (my second BF). Your special bicycles are the magic that helped make one of my cycling dreams come true: to ride every single day… and I’m going to try to keep it going and log lots more wonderful rides on my Bike Friday. I often get this question, so I’ll answer it here: My favorite ride ever on my Pocket Rocket Pro was riding up the Haleakala volcano in Maui and then back down. The climb took about 5 hours, the descent only about 90 minutes. Going from sea level to above the clouds and back again was an experience I’ll never forget. Thank you for so many fantastic memories like this Bike Friday! Jim
Thanks in advance for helping me with the following:
Pocket Pro as is OK. The question is regarding the suitcase.
Are there any suitcase options? the specific request is to be able to fold the suitcase and use as a backpack. The reason is while traveling the suitcase needs to carried.
Best,
Eli
As with all Bike Friday’s, the suitcase is a Samsonite case. We have a package that turns the suitcase into a trailer that can be towed by the bike, making it a self-sufficient package.
Not only that, when fixing a flat, he’s also known as Leverless Langley! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_bB4i_Z_cQ
Go Jim!
I now have a 26 tooth rear cog on my Silk and it makes hills much easier – it fitted on with the same belt. The bike and I tackled a 3 week tour of New Zealand and we both survived well despite lots of gravel tracks and dirt roads. I even managed to cope with a rear tyre puncture which meant taking the wheel off which is not a trivial task with the belt and internal hub. A word of warning – be very careful with the bolts that go into the wheel drop out plates as the alloy is very soft – I have had stainless steel inserts put in for the adjusting bolts and for the rack mounts.
can’t find the link to this blog post
It should be there now! Apologies
Thanks for the blog and thanks for coming even if you “talk funny”.
Missed it this time but Mansfield will be a great ride next year.
Glad you had such a good time. Was a real pleasure to meet you and look forward to seeing you next year- beware there are more hills in the Mansfield area!!!
Great to read your account and remember the great week around Mudge. Thanks to all who made it possible. See you next year.
May I please pass my respects and my condolences and thoughts and prayers to Margaret
on the passing of her husband and best friend.
I have not been in touch with Margaret for a while but remember her fondly. Tell her
I still hope to get that Bike Friday !
Regards, Steve Giles, Brisbane, Aust.
Great to read your account of the 18th gathering we hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Thanks for the Decals you sent we received them this morning. we look forward to meeting up again next year in Mansfield Vic. Cheers David
Great! My congrats to him, We want to reach 80 and still be able to riding a bike. An example to follow.
Raz!
You are a sportscaster! Nice post.
We love the Haul-a-Day here at G&O!
I love it. Although the standard version seemed so much better than the special one.
The neat way the pallet served as a base for the rest of the luggage was great.
I know which rider would have been more comfortable.
I use my bike to carry cargo every day but it cannot take this much weight so I need a trailer when I have a lot of things.
This looks to be another really clever and well thought out design.
Well done.
I would like to know if anyone else has put the bike friday folding full size rack on their bike friday. I have one on, and regularly put 20lbs or so on it, however both with and without weight on rack there is a certain amount of tweaking or torque with the back fork visibly wobbling. I was wondering if this is occuring on other silks or if mine might have a problem. I am 6’1″ and weigh around 195 so I put a decent amount of pressre on pedals howevrr after reading other comments they seem to have no issue like this.
Nick
You are not alone. Because of the design of the rear, we no longer recommend carrying heavy loads on a rear rack.
I was visiting my family in Eugene; we went and I fell in love with the red Haul a day up for raffle.
We went to the store and I test rode a Pocket Companion.
I now have a production date and am shopping for ridiculously cute red and white polka dot with pink roses paniers to use on my new bike.
how do i get my name in the hat??? i am your biggest cheerleader:
Eli,
Others have used taped cardboard boxes to transport the bike, then fold the box and either throw it away or carry with you.
Just do a google search on this topic and you will find a few posts.
Jake
Steve: sounds like a wonderful trip. I’m inspired to ride throughout the Alps in 2016 and am starting to plan a trip. Do you recommend any particular source for maps, or do you use an on-line source while riding? Thanks!
BR. Portland, Oregon
Oh heck YES! Fabulous stuff. Kudos indeed.
Looking forward to reading the full versions, the excerpts really whet the appetite.
David
Great telling Rob. You make some great points such as the wheel size which encourages me. I own a Dahon P8 which I use for commute and. Specialized Roubaix which is my road distance bike. I have grown to love my Dahon so much, happened on to Bike Friday at last years El Tour deTucson. I love design and theory of it and am seriously thinking selling my Roubaix to get Bike Friday road bike.
I rode my tikit through knee deep water and was concerned the Alfine 11 would be affected. From this experience, it seems it is watertight, which is a relief.
Does the hub need servicing? How does one look after it though one of the reasons for getting this hub is so that it will not need looking after.
The hub does need routine maintenance. Please call our service department, they will be ready to assist you.
After take a glance of this bike, just a sound came from my mouth and the sound was ” Awesome”.
This bike is amazing! it is very fast and the style is really for me. It is also very light with alloy rims with alloy hub. the steel frame is very sturdy as I have crashed it and it is still in great shape! Really worth the money.
Hey Raz, Wow! Love your Haul-A-Day and the blog/story of your adventure. I notice that your front basket and it seem WAY heavy, however, i did not note any complaints from you in regards to how your Haul-A-Day handled. Apparently if wasn’t a problem? I figured it would have wobbled you into a ditch 😉 Thanks, Dave/Dave Gay
The front basket mounts to the frame and not the front wheel. Having a good amount of weight up there does absolute wonders for the balance of the bike. In fact, I had to do a double-take when you thought it seemed “way heavy” because it didn’t feel that way at all. I didn’t even notice it, really. The only thing you have to get used to is that the basket doesn’t turn with the front wheel, so that throws you off a little at first. But the front basket is one of the accessories that make the Haul-a-Day such a versatile tool, especially if you have the back loaded with kids.
Too bad the battery on the Bionix is considered “dangerous goods”. The fire suppression systems on airplanes is not enough to extinguish one of those batteries if it “runs away” therefore it’s considered too dangerous to be carried on ANY airliner, passenger or cargo. Shame.
What the heck… I can’t buy a ticket. The website is down. I want to register for the bike giveaway. I also want to particpate. come on. This is not right.
The folks at Philly Bike Expo say the website is up and working.
Not working when I just tried to get a ticket.
As I understand it there are some issues with certain browsers (sorry that I don’t know which ones). But they are working to fix the problem.
raz
hooray! May the winner have much fun on the bike!!
Of course winner is definitely going to have much fun.
I ride at least 4 times a week, or 200 times a year and can’t take it if I don’t I makes me feel so much healthier and relaxed. I now ride a cargo bike and do almost all chores with it. I ride around 3,000 miles per year.
That’s real good advice! Also I would add that be careful about buying a bike just from the test ride advice you read in a magazine. Reviewers tend to have their own biases about bikes and what they like may not fit what’s best for you.
Very inspiring. Thanks for sharing!
This beautiful tikit, featured in the photo, is still available. This particular Tesla owner has not yet taken the leap, so his loss is your gain! http://www.BikePartners.net, Santa Rosa, CA. The Bike Friday ‘tikit’ — best cure for EV range anxiety.
Great adventure story and one that I hope to replicate with me wife one day. We have a triple bike Friday which, now with our kids going to high school next year, we plan to make into a tandem and do some trips. Thanks for the inspiration!
Merill and I are off to Japan in April thenTelAviv in February on ourBikeFridays
We live near Portland and would love to get together andcompare noted sometime.
Dennis Weaver
We took our Bike Friday’s to Cuba 4 years ago and found the same positive experience. We, too, had been advised to take lots of energy bars and we’re glad we did. At that time, riding from Havana to Vinales, it was difficult to find ANY food to buy along the mostly deserted roads. We stayed in casa particulars the entire time and in these private homes, the food was plentiful and delicious. We hope to return soon and bike east from Havana the next time.
What model was Claudia’s bike.
It would be fun to organize a bike trip to Cuba.
A reasonably small group.
Claudia was riding a New World Tourist. Though after her Cuba trip she upgraded to the lightweight version, the New World Tourist Lite!
Hey, great story. I’m ready to go!
Great job Claudia… I am planning on doing that soon with my wife. Also a European tour with our Bike Fridays.
About 20 yrs ago my wife and I bought two relatively inexpensive bikes and toured the western part of Cuba. Beautiful! We gave the bikes to two deserving (we hoped!) teenagers at the end of the trip. Great place to travel by bike. Glad that our political attitude toward Cuba has changed.
Bob
I would love to bike around CUba. Send me any information on future trips.
Will do!
Yes, I’d love to ride through Cuba too. I wonder when the US Govt will close Guantanamo Bay and turn it into a tourist attraction a la Alcatraz…?
Three of us returned 4 March 2016 from four weeks in Cuba. Eugene was well represented. My Co-Motion and Lynda’s Bike Friday. We met another cyclist from Vancouver, BC, also on a Bike Friday, in the Pinar del Rio province.
I loved Cuba since I first went more than 20 years ago. I can imagine how great it would be to go with my 15 year old son and bike around. I will appreciate any helpful insight. Best.
Jean Bellego
jbellego@gmail.com
Hi Jean,
We’re excited that you’re thinking about going! What kind of insight are you looking for? Traveling advice for Cuba? Thoughts on the best bike to take? You’re welcome to email Claudia and ask her anything about her experience, her email is at the end of the post. And, of course, if there is anything that we can help you with feel free to email us at info@bikefriday.com
How does one et to Cuba via Mexico? I have no idea about how to get there . I have a Surly LHT and would like to take it with me. As you can probably tell I have very little experience in touring.
Hi David,
Check in with Claudia, she can give you the full scoop! Her email is at the end of the post. Enjoy your travels!
Cycle North Carolina. A one week ride from the mountains to the coast. Held annually the first week of October.
Sounds like a great ride, thanks Dean!
Tour De Simcha now in its 5th year. Part of Chai Lifeline, people bike and run all over the world to help children and families affected by cancer and other life-threatening illnesses. This year 180 women will bicycle 73 miles from New Jersey to the Catskills. The ride ends at Camp Simcha where the campers eagerly wait for the riders to arrive. Then it”s party time. Take a look at the videos and visit my page at tourdesimcha.com
This sounds like a really important and worthwhile ride, thanks for sharing Nina!
Go to Michigan and ride the DALMAC Labor day. A great ride beginning in Lansing and ending at or over the Mac bridge. A great ride for the family too
Awesome! Family rides are the best! Thanks Glen
From what I understand, you are required to be a part of an organized educational or cultural group on order to visit. Those of you that have gone, what was your organization?
People have been going for years, via Mexico. Now, you can go via the U.S. if you do travel with an educational/cultural group which provides you with documentation. I am going with ibike in March. They do people-to-people tours.
Bike Virginia – 6 days of riding in various parts of Virginia, full supported including rest stops camping etc.
Very cool, I hope it includes stopping at the beach! Thanks Jon!
Bike Maine is a real treat. We did it a couple of years ago and this year it will be with my new Pocket Rocket!
Oh cool, is this the lighthouse ride?
The Unknown Coast Weekend in Ferndale CA, put on by Chico Velo Sept 17 and 18. Two day ride, redwood forests, pristine coastline and some nice hills including “the wal”. Rest stops, dinner, pancake breakfast, free camping or pay another $15 and stay in a cabin. Two day price is around $85. Chicovelo.org
Pancake breakfasts and “the wall,” who wouldn’t want to go!
I’m also very interested in touring Cuba, but have been waiting until I could go directly from the US (without having to go with a sponsored group), but now I’m thinking of waiting no longer and accessing it from Colombia where I hope to travel this Fall. I don’t want to haul a bike, so I’m wondering if it’s possible to purchase a half decent “cross-type” bike in Cuba and use it?
With a conventional type bike, can you transport on their buses?
Awesome! Not sure about buying bikes there… My experiences of Latin America is that the bikes there are cheap Chinese models. Nothing that you’d want to tour on. But I’ve never been to Cuba, maybe its different there? Feel free to email Claudia, her address is at the end of the post. And yes, you can transport a standard frame on the buses, but you’ll have to disassemble them, take the wheels off etc.
Hi this really sounds great but I am confused – did you bike each day while in port and come back to sleep or did you bike from one port to another and catch the ship further along on the cruise?
Thanks
Sharon
Hi Sharo, whatever port we visited allowed us the time we were there to ride. Most of the time it was a full day. On several occasions it was two days. We found it very easy to explore and make it back to the ship.
Great little story, my wife & I cruise a bit, I have only once seen a man with a fold up and have thought about this many times, you convinced me …… Cheers Rod from Australia
Hi Rod, we sure had fun riding in your country. While riding in Darwin (during the tail end of a cyclone) looking for a bike shop for a jersey souvenir I met a shop owner named Dingo who owned K9 Cycles. He didn’t have a jersey at the shop but asked me if I could wait a bit? Sure. He comes back with a totally cool N W Territory racing jersey and gives it to me as a token of Ausie hospitality. The people of Australia were amazing!
We took a BF Project Q in its tandem form on an Alaskan Cruise (New Amsterdam, out of Vancouver, Inside Passage). Disassembling it into its cargo shoulder bag was my means to get it in and off the ship. It made for a slightly cozier space in the room, but it fit. We’d do the assembly/disassembly on the dock. I had mapped out rides of 20-40 miles in each port. Unfortunately, it rained nearly every day except in Skagway, where it was windy and cold. Still we road up the pass towards Canada. Very scenic and free-feeling.
Don’t think our stateroom AKA “hamster hole” would have worked with a tandem. My hats of to you for doing it and making most of your trip despite weather. That’s always roll of the dice.
Great trip report! Been to Tanzania, done the Northern Safari Circuit (Serengeti, Ngorongoro, etc and pretty sure I know the rock those two lionesses are on. Agreed that it’s unfortunate that tourism has created faux friendship/interaction based on handing out money.
I had hoped to read a trip report saying that cycling made you somewhat different and immune to that sort of thing.
Bicycle “repair” is an amazing thing in that part of the world. Welding torches are as important as wrenches. As a bicycle shop owner, my one regret is not getting to spend any time at a bike “shop” while there. Not something the guide had any interest in, and you won’t find much English spoken in that environment.
You did a fantastic job! I love my New World Tourist but I haven’t yet acquired the endurance to make a trip like yours, but that is a goal! Thanks for sharing such a marvelous achievement! Mary in Oregon
Fantastic trip report! Enjoyed your perspective and how to roll with the ever changing surroundings. The pictures are beyond words. Can’t imagine seeing all those animals in their natural habitat let alone while riding a bike!
I would do a red frame with black trim. Add some black 3m glow tape on the red frame and it would look a lot like my current BF….named “Ladybug”. =)
Nice! That sounds awesome, especially with the glowing tape. Does it glow in the dark?!? Send us pictures: info@bikefriday.com
Great Story! Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful adventure. I worked for Peace Corps Tanzania for three years. My bicycle was my best friend and rode it everyday to the office, but I have to admit I never took an extended bike trip to the north. I am seriously jealous. You can easily ride your bikes on the ferry to Zanzibar and it is fun to ride there.
I still work for Peace Corps as a Roving Director of Management and the staff at different posts I work in laugh when my clothes are in my carry-on suitcase and my other bag is my Bike Friday!
Enjoy your time in Tanzania and give my love to the PC staff there!
Thanks for all your thoughts. Anne, Elisa is a Peace Corps Response, Seed Global Health Volunteer teaching nurses and midwives at the University of Dodoma. She will send your message on to PC TZ. Best, Barry
Gorgeous photos! Amazing trip! Looks like the trip of a lifetime.
We currently own a tandem Santana Arriva but will be upgrading to a Santana Spiriit, which will be easier to travel with. Also just bought a tandem Bike Friday. Cycling in Cuba sounds really great. Would love to do something like that. We’re considering a trip south next winter (2017). Would love to meet up with other cyclists.
Nice ride!!!,maybe next trip you want more hills? check ours some years ago
Thank you for a wonderful article! It is fabulous to read of Nancy doing the Pyrennes on the Pocket Crusoer (New World Tourist Lite). As for pace, I always believed slow and steady got you to the top and it looks like the triple cranks did the job. And you managed with all that weight! There’s hope for the rest of us then.
Fantastic job, you two! My husband and I both own Pocket Crusoes as well, and although we’ve never taken them into serious mountains, we have ridden them all over the US (including a loaded tour in upstate NY) and even in Mexico. They are amazing bikes and have never let us down!
What a wonderful trip! I have a Pocket Rocket Pro, which I have travelled with a dozen times in Europe, mainly in France. I cannot say enough about how comfortable it is and its top performance on the climb and descent. Thank you for sharing your trip. Vance
Thanks for the story. We skipped the mountains on our Tandem Tuesday, but our France trip in 2015 included the stretch from Bordeaux through Toulouse and on to the Mediterranean Sea. Mostly on canal paths and small roads. Warm welcomes and great food and wine experienced best on a Bike Friday.
Usual tandems require the heavier person to be captain, in front. That appears not to be the case here. Why?
There isn’t actually anything about the bike design that would require the heavier rider to be in the front. It’s all about what the individuals who are riding the tandem prefer!
Hello Lou, It has never been a requirement. Tandems are generally configured with the larger frame up front, which makes sense. However, it is not a requirement. I am blind and have been riding and racing tandems for over 18 years. I am 170, at my heaviest and have ridden a Bike Friday Traveller XL, with a lady pilot, who weighed 97 pounds. As long as the stoker is experienced and steady, it should not be a problem.
Ron, in Sacramento
Where are batteries in Pic #1 (with couple – above) ? Is that the ‘cruise’ battery on the rear rack in Pic #2 (no people, but lots of pumpkins, below?). What thoughts or recommendations on a folding solar array that could recharge LiPo’s in a couple of hours (while eating a picnic lunch?). Are the brakes regenerative at all ? More info would be helpful… Geoff, in NC
Look at the seat configuration here–there’s little doubt this stoker has a much better view than with a more “typical” tandem arrangement. Good for them.
We are Bike Friday fraternal twins with Bob! We also have an orange Bike Friday with an electric system sold by Electric Bike Solutions (go Doug!), but in our case it’s a Haul-a-Day. Love the e-assist system and the bike.
Love your pics Kris and Bob! Your tandem is beautiful!
Hi Kris and Bob, thanks for your inspiring story, I am in the UK and currently considering installing a Bionx on our tandem twosday. We also have a rear Sram 3 speed hub gear with a 9 speed derailleur . I had assumed I would put the Bionx in the rear wheel and therefore lose the Sram 3 speed and have to switch to a triple ring front changer. I had thought the torque pull from having the Bionx in the front wheel would be too strong and make it feel dangerous – that is obviously not your experience. I appreciate that the pedal assist sensor does control the torque but I am aware in an emergency hill start situation there is an overide button and I wondered whether you have any comments. I take the captain’s role and my wife the stoker – we each weigh around 150 lbs. I am thinking your electric motor is not a Bionx and may be a SRAM electric assist which i thought was not available for upgrading
I can relate to this, happy seeing and reading this one..
Wonderfully told!
I so enjoyed your “family” last trip, I’m sure you wife was there in spirit. I live in Shropshire and the county is beautiful, history abounds and wonderful scenery, we are lucky,lucky people.
Enjoy many more trips.
A fine tribute to your dear wife and her bicycle.
Very nice story! Thanks.
Wonderful story…..thank you for sharing. What a delightful tribute to your wife. I am hoping you will continue to ride with such joy. Your photos were outstanding, especially the ones of Lincoln Cathedral……such clarity.
Bless you,
Beautiful. Inspiring. Thank you. You and your wife are very blessed. Peace.
Beautiful, touching narrative. Absolutely lovely pictures.
What a beautiful post — moving, inspiring and helpful! I have gotten hooked on the southwestern tip of England in recent years, but it’s more a walking country, rather than cycling. Now I’m going to try the south-east, with my new BF. Thank you!
Beautiful tribute to his wife!
Thank you for sharing your moving and engaging story.
Inspirational! Thank you for sharing your story.
NOW 7:05 A.M. AND I JUST FINISHED THIS MAGNIFICENT ARTICLE. TIME TO LEAVE FOR WORK NOW, BUT CAN HARDLY WAIT TO GET HOME AND A JAUNT ON MY FRIDAY, DREAMING I AM MAKING THIS RIDE……..charlie
A beautiful photo-journal tribute of your promise to your wife. Thank you for sharing!
A great story ….. so much so, that I am now very interested in doing the route myself.
Thanks.
Magical!
Beautiful!
Wonderful photos, interesting historical facts and touching tribute to your late wife. I’d like to point out however that In Flanders Field was written by the Canadian brigade doctor John McCrae, not John McPhee.
Thank you. Superb photos and a well told story. Ordnance Survey maps 50,000 scale are recommended; old fashioned and let you see the whole area.
It is insufficient, to just say thank you. But words Are all we have.
Rich, thanks for the wonderful account of your “rideabout”. I’m so sorry for your loss. May you always feel the presence of you wife’s gentle spirit
A wonderful tribute and a great journal of a Bike Friday ride.
One correction is with the poem “In Flanders Field” It was written by Lieut.-Col. John McCray who was a
Member of the First Canadian contingent, died in France January 28, 1918, after four years in the Western Front.
What a delightul, touching account of your ride. Well written, with gorgeous pictures of a beautiful land. Sorry for the loss of your beloved. A wonderful way to share her spirit. Your Friday is beautifully set up, as well.
Speechless, so much love
So sorry for the loss of your other half
Beautiful Memorial! I’m sure she enjoyed it. I’m also sure she will be riding with you each time you push your pedals.
Touching tribute!
Touching story beautifully told in word and stunning photos. Being Aussies we loved the use of an Aboriginal name for your special BF. Thank you for sharing such a personal journey and a wonderful tribute to your wife. We tandem tour on a Two’s Day and were impressed with your bike set up.
Great job! I did two triathlons with my pocket rocket and have a half ironman coming soon. May try a full ironman someday with my pocket rocket!
I did John O’Groats to Lands End on my NWT in June 2012. We did 1,600 k’s in 23 days in the worst start to summer in 160 yrs…hope you have much better conditions than we did!
Would this route easy to find a camping place ? I planning to bicycled this route in the few years. As the beginning of a trip from Europe to China. My bicycle is NWT too, THX guy!
Hi Barr, you will find campgrounds easily. UK is big on camping. check: http://www.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/ukcampsites (just on example, find more sites for clubs and sites in each region where you wanna go). Plus, you can even ask on the next farm you pass by for permission (if you are in great need). More on cycling the UK here: http://www.cycletourer.co.uk/cycletouring/uk.shtml . Good luck and have fun!
Lots of campsites in the UK. If you use http://cycle.travel/map (disclaimer – my site!) to plan out a route, you can use the little accommodation menu on the left to find campsites nearby – it uses the data from the fabled Archie’s Campings listings which is generally acknowledged to be the best campsite data in Europe.
As a fellow NWT owner it’s great to read this account. 🙂
Wonderful and thanks much. My bucket list now has one more item.
Hey Robbie,we bought two NWT in 2014 mine have the flat touring bars? Can I get just those bars for another bike? Long story but I now really need the shorter grip distance
Hi Richard,
No problem. I’ll have our service department reach out to you and work out the details. If you have any other questions, feel free to email me directly at robbied@bikefriday.com. Hope your NWTs are treating you well!
-Robbie
As a bike enthusiastic i know how much planning needed to go on a bike Friday with your family. Loved the photos and don’t stop biking. Thanks
Thank you – lovely story. Was wondering what camera you carried; very nice photos.
Thanks for sharing such a great article. Keep updating us
I noticed that you did not ride with your suitcase in a trailer. What did you do with your suitcase?
Right on!
Wow you are an inspiration Molly!! Congratulations.
This is the perfect way that how a content must be delivered. Thank you for the useful info buddy.
I went there many years ago and raced with a small Cuban team. It was so much fun.
Now, I am OLD!! but I want to do a tour. I am considering buying a bike friday bike as I hate getting ripped off on transport on the plane
Let us know what we can do to help.
I’m getting ready to fly to Okinawa with my New World Tourist Lite packed in the suitcase. I also have the trailer kit for when I get to the mainland. I can’t tell you how excited I am to be making this trip. Soon I’ll be posting on Twitter and Instagram.
Georgetown is NOT a suburb of Washington, DC. It is an integral part of WDC. The original survey of the District of Columbia in the late 18th Century included Alexandria, Georgetown, and Washington “city” (Pierre L’Enfant’s original layout), all in a 10 mile by 10 mile diamond, the federal District of Columbia. In 1841 Virginia took back their portion in a non-contentious negotiation, since crossing the Potomac was troublesome in those days (it still is, at rush hour!). That left DC with its peculiar current layout. IN 1871 Georgetown and Washington City merged their street grid, utilities, and labeling of neighborhoods, BUT, Georgetown has always been part of the District, in the portion that Maryland contributed to the Federal district. Ken Berman – proud BF owner. (I just did the full GAP/C&O last week over five days of camping. If in DC, pls visit me at kensdctours.com)
Good story. Thanks to Ken for clarifying the Georgetown comment. We just got back from six weeks in France on our Bike Friday tandem with suitcase trailer: Ain’t it grand to be riding, especially on a Bike Friday?
Good job! Congrats!😉Beautiful pictures, inspiring.
Great Tour!
Aaron could you please tell me more about the stiffness of your tikit? Did you improve it somehow?
I ride a tikit, too. My experience on long distance ride is, that i lose a lot of energy, because the frame is loose (because of the folding mechanism).
I am ok with the ride quality on my tikit. It’s my 1st proper bicycle, Before the tikit I was just using affordable bicycles that u get off the supermarket. I would still say I am pushing the small wheeled tikit a bit too hard in a massive tour like Iceland, but hey it survived. If I am ever tired is cos of the crazy wind/rain in Iceland. The most important mod on my tikit is getting it to have a road double chainring setup, this helps me to have better gear range to tackle difficult hills. And I got the bikefriday H bar which I Love a lot.
Hi Aaron, What is the weight of your luggage throughout the cycling trip? All you brought along was on your bike? Thank you.
Beautiful Lady. Keep it up.
FINALLY — one that actually folds flat. Can’t wait to try it.
Just read the article on the Morpher Collapaible Helmets, nice. The writer, Jeffrey, who travels and rides a lot did a nice job describing his dilemma and convinced me that this is the right helmet for the resolution.
Thanks for the feedback!
Excellent idea who’s time has come. As a physician I always advise riders to protect against head trauma. We now know even minor cerebral contusions can lead to serious health issues. This helmet is the right size with the right protection. Just like you would’t drive your car without a seat belt, no one should ride a bike without a helmet.
Now we have a portable, easy to carry Morpher helmet.
I couldn’t agree more!!! Thanks.
Price?
$150
Absolutely. I suggest that someone investigate volume production and price points. For a rider that flies perhaps 2 or 3 time per year, I just clip my helmet to my carry-on pack and treat it like a hat. $150 is pretty costly, but get it under $100 and sales volume would increase.
I am small, so my bike friday is small. I can fit my helmet into the suitcase with my bike. However, in doing so, I have also had my helmet cracked (ya gotta love the baggage handlers). Having a low-profile helmet, that I can easily store in my carry-on would be great.
It’s great that you noticed the helmet had cracked. Unfortunately, it is also feasible that your full size helmet would be in your suitcase, take impact, crack and you not realize it. That would be very unfortunate as it would not provide the needed protection.
With the Morpher flat folding helmet, it would sit comfortably in the suitcase and not be at risk of cracking due to impact on the case itself.
Or there’s this solution: hovding.com
While the hovding is an interesting idea, there are several things to consider:
· It is a scarf that needs to be zipped up around the neck in order to be used. It is VERY hot and restrictive to cycle in.
· It costs $300 (more than some bikes)
· It can only be used once then needs to be discarded
o so if it’s dropped and goes off in error it needs to be chucked away – goodbye $300
o it can’t be tested, because once again, if it’s triggered and goes off then it needs replacing
· It needs to be fully charged before use
· It needs to be serviced annually (apparently)
· It has a complex algorithm to decide if it needs to be inflated
o Would you be confident that it would always go off when needed? I wouldn’t
o If it goes off when not needed then, once again, you have a complete failure and will need to replace it
· It can’t be taken on an aircraft. The ATA and TSA won’t allow it
· You have to remember to turn it on when you mount your bike and then turn it off when you demount
· It weighs 812g… so it is very heavy
· It hasn’t passed CPSC testing so can’t be used legally (or sold) in the US!
The mechanicals of the helmet should be explained.
How is it stabilized while in the open position so that it will not be crushed on impact?
When folded, there is a magnet device that holds the helmet totally flat. When you pull the helmet open, there is a locking mechanism on each side of the helmet that engages to hold the helmet totally open. To fold the helmet, you slide the locking mechanism up, it releases the sections of the helmet and it folds flat once again. (Sorry, a little tough to describe without a picture, but it really works!)
The article does not state what safety standards are met by this helmet (CPSC, ASTM F447, Snell B-95, or?). These standards protect for a drop of 2.0m or 2.2m, equivalent to failing from the bike). If a new design could offer protection for impact a realistic speed if would be worth a premium price.
Hey Mike,
We believe that it meets the EN1078 and CPSC safety standards, but we’re still waiting on the final confirmation from Morpher HQ. We should have an answer for you soon!
Mike ,
Got the word from Morpher- the helmet has CPSC (US) and CE EN1078 (non-US, excluding Australia) safety certifications.
There will soon be two Pak-iTs in Columbus! Woo-hop!
Hi i living in australia. And i own tikit. How fo o get recall service?
Hi Kyoung,
The best way to resolve this is to get in touch with our service department- 541-687-0487 | service@bikefriday.com
Would have liked to see more info on the helmet. Rather than packed in the matte black bag in your suitcase a video of how it works/folds would have been nice. Also exactly what safety standards the helmet meets is NOT clearly explained. I am familiar with ANZI, ASTM, and CSA but I have never heard of CPSC (US) or CE EN1078 (non-US). Also no information is given regarding colour options.
Why did Bike Friday NOT urge prospective customers interested in the Morpher Folding Bicycle Helmet to log onto the Indigogo site and order the helmet from there, then the customer would have a wider selection of colour choices, NOT just restricted to WHITE ONLY which Bike Friday is currently offering?
Hey John,
When first got in touch with Morpher we weren’t aware that their helmets were available for purchase through their 2013 Indie-Go-Go. Once that came to our attention we reached out to them and have negotiated a deal- Morpher is going to offer BF customers an exclusive discount to purchase a helmet through their campaign! We’re still ironing out the details, but we’ll be in touch soon with the specifics on the offer!
Matthew @ Bike Friday
Wow! What a brace soul you are! I must learn to ride alone and am encouraged by yours! Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for the story. Now I’m dreaming of touring on my new Friday
This is a great account! We’re stoked as we’re leaving to ride Cuba in 8 days. Like you, we’re arrivingin Varadero (Matanzas), bussing to Sancti Spiritus then biking back via Trinidad, Cienfuegos, Playa Giron then up through the centre. We’re taking the Hershey train to Havana and biking biking unassigned in the area for a week.
You’ve answered some questions for us – through your pics we notice you went with long sleeved jerseys for instance – and we’ve been wondering if we should pre book Casas. It appears you had good luck with just arriving.
We will be blogging whenever we can find internet at this site:
Our FB New World Tourists are packed and ready to go!
Loving this blog!
How many years you are goin to trips with mr. Friday?
Not quite 1 year. I hope to have many more trips in the future.
How did You install the extra chainring?
Did you just “handshift” it or did You also install a derailer?
Do You have any close ups of the setup?
Hi. It’s a 3rd party Front deraileur hangar attached to the part where the seatmast latches to the tikit frame
Could you share with all the hopeful folks out there as to whether the pakiT can roll while folded in the way the Tikit does?
Thanks!
Hi Steve, thanks for reaching out! Currently, the pakiT doesn’t roll while folded the way that the tikit does, but we’re definitely looking into how to make that happen!
Please do! Thanks for sharing 🙂
I went to build a Pakit and didn’t see options for fenders and racks?
Also I didn’t see the backpack as an additional item for purchase?
Are they on the website somewhere and I missed these items?
Hi, you’re absolutely right! Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. We’re working on it and hope to have it updated by the end of the day.
Awesome journey by an awesome team
How about a how to link?
We’re assuming you mean to build the generator, here’s a link:
https://hackaday.io/project/5665-cinebike-human-powered-cinema
Thanks for the great information,you explained things so perfectly,thank you .
How much is this bike. Do you have 3 wheelers. I have trouble with my balance now.
Hi Mary Ann, thanks for reaching out! This bicycle starts at $1190. We don’t make three wheelers, sorry to say. Feel free to email or call with any further questions: hello@bikefriday.com 1-800-777-0258
My boyfriend ordered and paid for a Morpher helmet for me in November 2016. It’s now Feb 2017 and this helmet never showed up. I was starting to think this was a scam. We’re in the US so thought maybe it just takes longer to get here. Emailed numerous times and messaged through Facebook. Can’t find a phone number to call. Can anyone help out?
Hi Barbara, we aren’t reps for Morpher, so unfortunately we don’t have any info that you don’t already have. The order deadlines they’ve given in their campaign are estimates, did they not give you an estimated delivery time? Might be a technical issue, you may want to try emailing from a different account, and/or checking your spam folder in case their responses ended up there.
Hi Barbara, I checked with Morpher and Geeta Bhandari would be happy to assist you. Her direct e-mail is geeta@morpherhelmet.com. She tried to look up the order, but since it was ordered by your boyfriend, she was unable to find it with just your name. Please reach out to her directly.
It was hot and sunny so I used a long sleeved jersey most days for the sun protection. On the long days of 80+km we usually were riding by 6am aiming to be at our destination by midday. Going up La Farola I had a sleeveless jersey but put the long sleeved one on for going down. November was not peak season so we never booked ahead except for the initial casa.
I am also riding the same Bike Friday (Pocket Rocket) since 1994. I retrofitted the original shifter cable system a bit, which wrapped around the bottom bracket with just a few nylon sheathes that would wear out and allow the cables to rub against the bracket. I patched in some cable housing, held in place with hose clamps. I had to change the right crank once after it became enlarged at the flange and would no longer stay tight. Everything else on the bike except the usual wearable parts is still original.
Mine is #1086, 1993, for 24 years. Cycled another 5,000 miles in 2016. Cycled in 21 countries with the same Pocket Rocket. No idea of the total miles traveled, but probably around 100K. Other than the usual chain-cables-cassettes maintenance items, the major changes include: Double to triple crankset; conversion to Capreo rear; YST headset to XT, and now on 2nd XT; replaced triple crank with another triple crank; back to Green Gear twice for the Capreo update, cracked rear stay repair; cracked hinge tab (both time they blasted and repainted it; replaced and rebuilt the rear wheel once while on a cross-USA trip in 2008. Also wore out the first trailer frame. And all this time, Green Gear has stood behind their lifetime warranty. What a great company.
nice explanation…. I am saving hard to own my dream dream folding bike friday…
God knows when that day is going to come , I am 43 already! 🙁
Manoj, you’re never too old- there are Bike Friday owners in their 90’s!
Great job, looking forward to reading more of your travel Stories.
bfold
Thanks Bfold!
Wow.. Inspriational! Can’t wait to hear of future travels with the Pocket Rocket. Also interested in how this fits you. I am a big guy and was under the perception that a Pocket Rocket did not work well for big guys. Thoughts?
Hey Dale, isn’t a great story? We’re really inspired by it too! Thanks for the question, we’ll reach out to Newton and ask him to chime in!
Very interested in getting more info. I have had some cardiac issues in the last few years and although now ok, an assist bike may be in my future.
Absolutely, we’re happy to share more info with you. One of our design experts will reach out to you to make themselves available as a resource- you can ask whatever questions you’d like, we’re here to help!
Brilliant piece. Great story, really well chosen pictures and a compelling message. I’m in!
Thanks Jeff! If you can make it out to the launch party this Friday, we’d love to see you there! Ninkasi on tap, live music, tiny home + pakiT demos… it’s going to be awesome!
More than half way through my 7th decade (God…when did that happen?) and electric assist is starting to sound pretty good.
We bought a new Family Tandem last summer, and would like to ride it “right up to the end!”
Time flies when you’re having fun, so you must be having a lot of it! Electric assist is pretty gosh darn cool, it sort of makes you feel like super man while you’re riding. We’d love to chat more with you about your plans to convert your tandem, one of our design experts will reach out via email, feel free to ask them whatever you’d like to know about electric assist!
Great to hear from you Joseph!
I just talked with a lady at our lake who was riding a 27 speed Bike Friday. That is what I want.
I like your idea of an electrical assist, with your assistance. Do you sell the 27 speed bike?
Hi Steve, thanks for reaching out! We definitely sell 27 speed bicycles and we’ve got some great options for e-assist as well. We’ll have one of our design experts get in touch with you to provide you with more details and to be a resource for any additional questions you have!
I spy with my little eye – The Galavan! Can’t wait ’til it’s done and my new pakiT is safely on board. Nice article – and I’ll be calling you soon, Matt.
The Galavan! Yes! Excited to catch up with you Joni, see you at the launch party on Friday?
hi there, i happen to find one Rare Honda Step Compo UB10 electric Folding bike in a Garage sale in our neighborhood, i charge the Battery , tested & it run perfectly. the gear shifts as suppose to & it is in mint condition. im just wondering what would be the value of such Bike now a days. can you assist me in figuring out if this is indeed a rare find & the value? please advise
Hi Mel, thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, that’s not our area of expertise, though there are probably e-bike forums out there where someone could help you assess your great find! Best of luck
I need a Bike Friday for my 236 sqft Manhattan studio. Wait, I already have a Bike Friday. 2 of them. No 3! Maybe I need a bigger studio LOL!
You’ve got the tiny life down to an art! Is there one of those infamous NYC kitchen-bathtubs in your apartment? P.S. Lynette, have you connected with Newton and the new NYC BF club?
HAWAII has the highest rate of homelessness in the US. PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK IT WOULD COST TO BUILD ONE HERE.
Hi Steven,
Thanks for reaching out! From our understanding, it costs about $25,000 in materials to build a tiny home. This estimate is for the mainland though, so may not take into account factors that are unique to island living. Your question would probably be best answered by folks in HI who have already built one, try checking out some local resources to get a clearer picture!
Like you I live in a tiny house. So to speak. It’s a Mother in Law apartment with a storage room at about 480 sq. feet. Pretty spacious even with three cats and four bikes. I wish I would had made the last one a Bike Friday. I would’ve had more room. Especially when I haul my bikes in my small Honda Fit. I love the tiny movement.
So cool that you’re living tiny and loving it! And it’s never too late for a Bike Friday, sounds like it would be perfect for you 🙂
Nice article Joe! Love the photos and the setup on your Pocket Rocket Pro. These photos are very inspiring for a newbie like myself to the wonderful world of bike touring
Joe,
I just have one question. If you fly into a city, you must have to pack the bike into its suitcase. But I see from your pictures that you do not travel with the suitcase as a trailer. So what do you do with the suitcase? Do you leave it at a “Left Luggage” desk at the airport? Not all airports have this and the days of storage lockers are long gone due to security issues. I personally do not like to carry my suitcase as a trailer.
One more question. Don’t you have to carry a lot of extra tires since the 20″ ones are hard to find? I don’t see any tires strapped to your bike.
Hello Marianne—My usual strategy is to book myself into lodging for the first night that I’ve arrived in a city and to make a booking at the same place for the night before I fly out. It is then never a problem to leave the suitcase in storage there during the trip. In general I agree with you in that I do not prefer using the trailer as a suitcase. I find that it functions well enough this way—and I’ll use it to go home from the airport or to go straight to a friend’s house—but I just don’t prefer trailers in general.
In cases where I will not return to the arrival city, I have packed the Friday in an appropriately sized cardboard box! I dispose of it when I arrive and then I make a new one in the departure city. This is standard for cycle tourists with big wheel bicycles, but it is much easier with the BF because less cardboard material is needed.
Regarding tires, I have only rarely carried spares. It is true, of course, that the 451’s can be difficult to find but on trips of less than six weeks I regard the risk of tire catastrophe as negligible.
Yours,
Joe
Thanks! As a cycle tourist and fellow adventurer I really enjoyed reading your article and viewing the photos.
Even though I just purchased my custom measured BF last year from phone sales rep and have yet to put even 100 miles on it, I nevertheless must agree with David regarding quality of craftsmanship and superiority of design and comfort ! As a forty plus year touring bike enthusiast of numerous 700cm wheel designs, I was faced by my sixties with a degenerative disc disease of my neck that threatened further use of such bicycles.
Thank God for the founders at BF, who 25 years ago, thought “outside the box” of convention and designed a radically different (and superior in ways) bike frame. Unlike conventional road, touring, mountain, cruiser designs, my custom made BF allows for an unusual 26″ long handlebar stem which allows me to ride with a nearly vertical spine position, thus alleviating 95% of the strain upon my cervical vertebrae ! Now I can once again ride PAIN FREE and therefore ride greater distances, especially in the “organized rides” I so love to engage.
Thank YOU, Bike Friday ! Your company = a “Godsend”!
I was wondering the same about transporting the bike as well. Leaving the suitcase in hotels storage is a good idea.
It looks like you have quite a bit of weight on the bike’s handlebars.
Do you ever find that this can make cycling a little awkward? I rarely cycle with front panniers for this very reason.
Hi Mike, the handlebar load you see in the photos I find pretty modest. It’s a 2kg tent, a foam pad, and then a front pocket with a mirrorless camera and maybe gloves, hat, and apple. It doesn’t influence the handling much at all; to the extent that it does, it slows turning down a bit which can be a positive thing on the Fridays, in my opinion.
I’ve done some trips with just front panniers and a bikepacking type saddle bag. That actually worked just fine, too, and is a popular setup on bikes with low trail front geometry that are intended for a front load. I find the geometry on the Fridays to be so forgiving, that I haven’t encountered a setup I didn’t get on with!
Joe
I have been touring on an electrified Tikit since 2012. I use front hub motors, a throttle (not pedelec) and 36v batteries with a capacity of about 14aH. The number of batteries and the type of motor I use varies according to the intended tour.
For instance, for the west of Scotland I took 2 batteries and used a slow but high torque motor (top speed only 18km hour) which had no trouble dragging the Tikit and suitcase trailer up the hills.
For a more recent trip through some of the river valleys of central Europe I used only 1 battery and a faster (but less powerful) motor (top speed about 30km hour) (panniers without trailer this time)
I started to experiment with electric assist about 4 years ago with an old mountain bike, and ended up loving the concept. So over the past 4 years I have converted 4 of my bikes to electric assist, including my Air Friday. I use the same motor on all four, a 250 Watt front wheel motor with throttle control and a 12Ah 36V battery. The best thing about the motor I use, a Golden Motor 902, is that it is a geared motor and has a one-way clutch. This means the motored wheel offers no resistance to rotation when the spring-loaded throttle is off, so the bike pedals exactly the same as it did without the motor.
The system adds about 18 lb to the weight of the bike, but this doesn’t matter much except on hills, so I use the motor only on hills. The electric assist turns a hilly ride into a flat ride, and enables me to still gets lots of exercise and fully participate in and enjoy all my club rides. I am 83 years old and can now keep up with the best of them.
An important topic! Thanks for digging in.
I have one concern: The growing use of electric pedal assist bicycles on our public lands, where ‘motorized recreation’ is not allowed. Growing numbers of cyclists are adding power to their machines and riding ‘under the RADAR’, ignoring the intent of the restrictions on motorized recreation.
Riding my Silk in the Portland Bridge Pedal two years ago. Passing a grandfather with grandson on a narrow bridge he commented “at least I am not using an electric motor!”. Neither was I but this shows many Americans still fail to see the value electric motors can bring to aging legs going up hills (and bridges). We need to get over our prejudice in many areas.
I look forward to the results of your study Alan. Thank you for investigating this topic.
I got back into biking after retirement with an electric bike, then moved on to my Bike Friday once I had enough skill and strength. Now I just opted in on Kickstarter for the Urbanx wheel (20″ available) to be able to swap out my front wheel in those instances I want to do some major climbing (bad knee) or keep up with my adult son. The battery is airline legal, it has throttle and pedal assist. Will be interesting to see when I get it what kind of range it has in reality. Weight including wheel and tire is 15 pounds, not bad, not great. I’d love to see BF come up with a quickly removed system around 8-10 pounds that doesn’t cost as much as a new bike =).
I really enjoyed biking for 4 days in Austria last fall on pedal-assisted bikes. All my taller friends got awesome Bosch batteries with real TURBO assist! My small bike had much less “assist” by comparison. I had to pedal like crazy, muscling to get the heavy bike, battery and motor up the same hills my friends were cruising up. Nonetheless we did a lovely 20 miles a day with lots of stops for exploring and had lots of energy left in the evening. I’m intrigued by the idea of adding an assist to my nearly vintage Pocket Lama!
hi,
I am from SIngapore and would like to do a solo ride in sept. Can i get some advice from you?
Those who oppose electric assist need to get educated. In the US, most cities max speed at 20mph which any reasonably fit millennial can sustain on a bike. Many of the systems only go 15 mph, which I can do at 67 years of age without assist. But, I like many others, cannot climb hills due to a bad knee so in those instances where my route requires hill climbing, it’s either pedal assist or driving a car. What’s better….another car on the road or a bike with electric assist? The whole issue of off-road e bikes and speeds is an entirely different matter – and there needs to be some sort of controls or regulations for off road as a 28mph+ e bike is more like a dirt bike than a bicycle.
We love our Bike Fridays. Linda has a New World Tourist in power raspberry. Mine is black. I have many bikes to choose from, but I frequently choose Bike Friday.
We have taken them with us on vacations in Bon Air, Savannah, and Richmond. It is always a pleasure to have our own bikes with us.
We ride them to fireworks on July 4th. w/ lights
The bike geeks at Bike Friday did an excellent job fiting and “speccing” our bikes.
Go Bike Friday!
Big Apples vs Holy Rollers: For pavement but also some gravel rail trails and fire roads — which would you pick now? Or, has a new tire enticed you since writing this… (for a BF HaD…) Cheers.
I too order a helmet via the Indiegogo site after reading about the helmet in Time magazine (Nov’16). I was given a Mch’17 delivery time but still yet to materialise. I have tried emailing but no response. I will follow the ‘tip’ above and email Geeta directly. Thanks.
This is exactly what we would like to do! How did you attach the chariot to the bike? It looks like you did not use the standard axle mount.
Hi Greta,
Thanks for inquiring! Pretty cool set up, right?
The way that this is attached is with a mount that is part of the rear hub’s skewer- here’s an image of that part: https://www.bikeshophub.com/wp-content/uploads/1371-thule-chariot-bike-trailer-cycling-kit-sport-touring.jpg
One thing that’s nice about this mount is that it holds trailer low enough to clear all the low hanging parts of the bicycle frame, like the foot rests and kickstand.
Hope this helps!
Bike Friday
I built my 205 sqft house in 2002. I’ve had my Pocket Llama for about 20 years and 25,000 miles; for the last decade it’s been my primary transportation (car free). 2006-8 I traveled half time on it, over 12,000 miles all over the western US, Mexico, Guatemala, and a winter in Florida. I love the life! I must admit that being retired helps. And living simply allows early retirement on not so much money.
What an adventure! Thanks for sharing.
very nice story. I’m glad that you guys keep sending these interesting links – I’m a very big fan of BF (both the bikes and the company) and it’s great to see how seriously some people take these bikes (and seriously use them too!).
I started talking with Bike Friday a year ago about electrifying our Tikits, my wife and mine. I was asking for a recommendation of an after market product that could provide an electric assist. I was told to wait if I could, Bike Friday was thinking of electrifying.
Conversations continued until in September 2016, I ordered two e-assists for our Tikits. We were told it would take a while as they were still considering vendors.
In November 2016, we left out Tikits with Bike Friday and began our wait. In time, we were told they would be ready next year, early 2017. In April 2017, we picked up the e-Tikits.
We have been riding them since and they are great. We use them as an assist, over hills, into the wind and to catch up. We use the lowest setting so we have no idea how long they will run on a charge.
Reception by other bikers has been very positive. It goes like, what are those little bikes, what no chain, a belt and a hub, amazing. Then, are they electric? Wow!
Finally, we are 77 and 76 years old and if all goes right, getting older. We see our e-Tikits as a way to gracefully ride into our future.
Increible!!!!! Un viaje fantastico.
This is excellent! Very inspiring. Great photos
Thanks so much 🙂
Loved reading your itinerary, Aaron 😊
I love my Bike Friday too
(and call it my vvBF!)
One of the best parts of your story is
that you give credit to the Creator
where it’s due.
Joyous Journies and Good Wishes
– Leah
Thanks Leah. 🙂 Hope to continue to travel more and connect more with our creator 🙂
Thanks for the story of your travels in Tasmania. I really enjoyed it and definitely want to visit Tasmania.
Glad u enjoyed the story. Really do check out Tasmania on 2 wheels! 🙂
Great reading! Thankyou so much! Tasmania could be our next destination ..my husband and I both have Pocket Rockets…we love them! Last December we flew from Los Angeles to Melbourne…we rode our bikes on many wonderful paths there.We also just arrived back from 10days of riding our Bike Fridays in the Alsace region of France…there was much challenging terrain and our Pocket Rockets,performed perfectly!
Love learning of more “great rides”…..Thanks Again!
Glenda
Pocket Rockets are amazing bikes. It’s a model of the Bike Friday family i wished to own too 🙂
Lovely adventures u have. Do share with the community if u can 🙂
Great article! You’ve helped inspire my next trip. Thanks!
Just do it man 😉
Stunning photos!
Thanks Wendy 🙂
Thanks for such an enjoyable article on cycling in Tasmania. Why not consider cycling in Victoria – the other side of Bass Straight. The Great Ocean Road is stunning cycling and we’d love to show you the wonderful rides around Geelong. I’m fascinated that you did your tour on a Tikit.
Ah yes the great ocean road! I was there on a day tour. Would love to do that one day. So many things to do and so little time.
Really inspiring reading about your trips! Quick question, where did you leave your bicycle bag once you arrived or did you carry it along with you?
I spent my 1st night in Hobart city. Spent the day fixing up my Tikit and doing some test rides to ensure all is good before i setoff for my round island adventure. The hostel is very kind to let me store my bike luggage and whatever i don’t need in their luggage storage area. When i returned , i did spend my last night in that same lodging as well.
Enjoyed your article. I have been to Tasmania many times, but never did it on a bicycle. Your descriptions were perfect.
I love my New World Bike and a friend and I have biked some terrific “rail to trail” rides. It has opened up a hugh new way of being able to go so many places and bike. Thanks for sharing.
I would think the New World Tourist will be a great bike to tour Tasmania and the ability to haul more luggage compared to the Tikit. I am more than glad to share my adventure 🙂
Thank you for the story and beautiful photos. So much to see in Tasmania. So glad you enjoyed it, despite the weather.
I guessed i had it worst in Iceland, haha. Glad u enjoyed my mini adventure in Tassie 🙂 yea the weather, thankful for the rainbows for cheering me up.
Hi Aaron,
Did you happen to save your route in some gps format. If so I would love to see it. We’re doing basically the same trip next March.
Jerry
Hey hi. Awesome, the weather hopefully wouldn’t be as cold as what i went through. Yes i have my route on Strava. More than happy to share it. Drop me an email at aaron.wende@gmail.com 🙂
Hi Aaron,
Congratulations on the Blogs and Rides. It’s one thing Riding and taking everything in and another to be able to picture it and blog about it. Your bike sure looks great. I’m sure considering a Bike Friday just to find out what it’s all about. I have toured similarly on my Brompton and right now live half the time in a small Villiage in Northern Thailand where cycling is to dream about.
Thanks for enjoying my post 🙂 indeed it is quite a challenge for me trying to balance the top priority being safety, completing the ride and getting pictures. Honestly i was very tempted to board the bus back to hobart and say that’s it, thankfully all went well. I owned the Tikit 1st before a 2 speed brompton. Both are awesome bikes by the way. Did a short tour of Japan on the brompton and it performed great as well. It’s an awesome bike. The Bike Friday bicycles are a unique experience. At least to me, i always found the bike Friday’s having a more road bike feel to it. Same kojaks tyres and somehow the Tikit just goes faster. The Pakit has the same “Bike Friday” ride and it never felt like a small wheelie. Wow will be nice to read about your tours in northern Thailand 🙂
Thanks for sharing your Pakit experience 🙂 i do find the gates belt drive Pakit a nice experience, especially when your packing it in a suitcase and i was like omg, no worries of my other bags or anything touching a greasy chain!!
Thirteen years later, that Lovemarks Prius is still on the road, now at 157,000 miles, still with Richard Vallens!!
Bikes are the most fashionable things in modern life style . I’m searching this strong and fashionable bikes .
What an inspiration you are Molly! I plan to get back to tri training after reading this.
Its a pity I cant source Bike Friday bikes in Australia.
I am still interested in the Pocket Rocket…but that is but a dream unless I stay in the US long enough for you guys to make one to fit me! ( I am just short of 5 ft). I was in New Orleans last yr, but that is a long way from you guys! and nothing in the Eastern states.
Had been writing for a while in the past to Robbie Dow of Bike Friday . He was very helpful.
I might just have to day dream about this bike!
Elvira , Brisbane, Australia
Hi Elvira,
You can absolutely have a Bike Friday delivered to you in Australia! Plenty of people have and continue to. We are very skilled at building custom bikes for people at a distance, in fact, the majority of people we build for never actually ever set foot in our shop! We’ve built 1000’s of bicycles this way and we have a great track record. And to top it off, we have a 30 money back guarantee, no questions asked- so if it doesn’t fit you just the way you want it to, you can send it right back to us at 0 risk to you.
Robbie doesn’t work here any longer, but we’ve got a solid team that can help you get the perfect bike for you. Can I have one of our reps reach out to you? Let’s make that dream a reality!
Cheers,
Matthew
Hey Delores
We did two rides together with Basil in Mexico. You were truly an inspiration. Looks from the pictures that you have a new Bike Friday or maybe my memory is not what it should be. Anyway you were a real inspiration for me and I often tell of the lady arriving on her BikeFriday, grey hair flying out from the helmet, all alone to a small town outside of Meridia. The group celebrated one of your milestone birthdays there.
It was you and other riders on various tours in Mexico that convinced me that BikeFridays were real touring bikes and for me to become a happy BikeFriday owner.
Obviously the years have gone on and you are still riding. Another great inspiration.
May the rides continue.
Graham Douglas
It’s great to show people us octogenarians can still get around under our own steam, I only reached the magic 80 this summer but shortly I’m off from where I live in England (Penn) with my “New World Tourist” to the northern most part of the British Isles The Shetland Isles and Orkneys. With our train service it can sometimes be difficult to get your bike on a train, but if the worst happens it folds and becomes baggage. With that in mind my Bike Friday using rail has taken me to France and many times to Bonny Scotland. It’s not my only bike I have several normal cycles with 700c wheels and most weeks cover over 100 miles with my cycling club friends on one of them, so life doesn’t end at eighty, but maybe starts!!
I loved this story. I have worked with the Telluride Adaptive Sports Program for 18 years. Some of my most inspiring adventures have been with autistic young people. They have almost always taught me important lessons of what it means to be human. My best wishes go out to this brave family, and hope they continue the adventure. If skiing is on their list of adventures Patch would be welcome in Telluride.
Dear Clint. So great to hear from you and your Sports Program sounds really impressive. We are absolutely committed to creating global change and are working to produce an educational short film on embracing autism. It would be amazing if you could share our kickstarter campaign with your networks to encourage people to contribute so we can make our film happen. Here’s the link https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/428257810/school-of-the-road-autism-and-adventure-documentar
Thank you Clint and all the best for a great winter program in Telluride, Travis
Looks great!
Good luck!
Wow, what a beautiful collection of bike goodness! Long live n+1; love our Haul-a-Day, but sometimes it’d be nice to have a bike just for lil’ ol’ me ❤️
Thanks Lindsay! So glad you’re loving your Haul-a-Day, and maybe this could be the bike that’s just for you!
Looks wonderful!
What an inspiring story 🙂
Thanks Aaron! We’re really lucky to have Hanna at the helm, she’s a great leader and inspiration to all of us here at the factory
Great story of persistence.
Thanks Shawn! If Hanna’s anything, she’s persistent 😊
Great story, great product. I’m in!
Awesome, thanks Tracy!
Diane, thanks for sharing your Pakit experience. I have a yellow Pakit and in love with the bike. Its so easy to pack in a suitcase for air travel and great for exploring around the city. Like you, I am looking forward to my next adventure on the Pakit. Great photos and story
Have you reached 200 yet? Are you close? I’d be glad to sign up if it’s available.
Hi Jon,
Thank you for reaching out about the Morpher Helmet! This offer is no longer available through us, but you can order directly from Morpher themselves- https://www.morpherhelmet.com/
Love the article! I’m a fan of Hanna and the whole Scholz family. I’ve been a Bike Friday owner since 1994 and have collected a garage full of wonderful Bike Fridays. Go, Hanna–the best days are ahead!
Thank you Bruce! Your support means the world to us!
Purchased a “Pre-loved” Tiket 2 years ago.Traveled to Eugene OR to pickup.Staff was great in every way shape and form.”Keep on Trucking” Bike Friday!
Thank you Scott, we really appreciate your support!!!
I have liked the idea of Bike Friday for years but not bike seats. I have been riding recumbents for about 25 years. Felt in heaven when I found a pre-owned Bike Saturday a few years ago. A folding bike and a seat I liked. Have been trying to get to Cottage Grove, Or. to visit my brother and Eugene to visit Green Gear. Perhaps 2018 will be the year. Love the story of Hanna and Bike Friday. Best of luck to you.
Thank you Jerry! We hope to see you here soon!
Heey is this the same Newton from this youtube video from a Brompton?! Did he switch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkSq9D6qu4Q
Sure is! He did, he went from two Bromptons and one Bike Friday to two Bike Fridays and one Brompton!
I hope you took notice of Dahon’s new Curl. Not the fold, but the weight capacity. It is ironic that i just invested in Bike Friday, but chose a Curl over a Haul A Day because it properly filled my needs. Just something to ponder.
Hi Joe,
Thank you so much for investing in Bike Friday! We’re glad that you support the mission of the company, and we’re looking forward to working with you as a part owner of Bike Friday. Thanks for pointing out the Curl, we’ve taken a look at it and noticed that it does have some nice features, we’re a little confused about your comment on the weight capacity, however. The Haul-a-Day, which starts at 33 lbs., can carry up to 420 lbs of combined rider and cargo weight, whereas the Curl (which weighs 27.6 lbs.) can carry only a max of 286 lbs. combined rider and cargo weight. As far as we can tell from the information on Dahon’s Kickstarter, the Haul-a-Day only weighs 6 pounds more, but can carry up to 134 lbs more than the Curl. Is there something that we missed?
Best,
The Bike Friday Team
The account of the PakiT in Hungary was interesting. I have 1997 Companion purchased by my father that I have put drop bars and a racing seat on. It rides well, but is heavier and harder to pack.
Thanks Mike, we’re glad you enjoyed the story! We’d love to see a picture of your souped up Companion- send us a shot at info@bikefriday.com
Newton, Wow what an adventure! And yes, biking in Europe is wonderful. If you go to Denmark, I’d like to make a suggestion. My mom, born and raised in Denmark during the occupation by the Nazis, spent summers in Denmark. In her sixties, she decided to bike across sections of Denmark. Each year was different — she had themes. My favorite year — and she took a group a ladies with her — was “old” churches. Yup. In Europe old is something over 1,000 years. So, we got to see lots of beautiful Viking churches. Of course, we also had way more pictures in the pubs next to the churches! Seems churches used to product drinkable liquids for their members. . . .
😉
Congratulations!
We in Jakarta would like to see if you can continue (no no to discontinue) Tikit – “tikit or live it”
Hi Atjep, we wish that we could continue the tikit, but it is not possible for us 🙁
I am curious about Newton’s saddle. Loved the travelogue!
Hey Juliann! Isn’t it a great story? The saddle that Newton has on his pakiT is a WTB Volt Comp.
Great write up; I really enjoyed this. What rear hub does Newton have on his pakiT?
Thanks Chris! Pretty great adventure. Newton’s bike has a Shimano Alfine 11 speed internally geared hub, it’s one of our favorites 🙂
Any chance you will go back and try to create a good folding stem that can be retrofitted to both the 20″ BF and the PakiT for those who want it? I know the first one had issues, but not having any loose parts is really helpful for multi-modal commuting. Even the snap-on PakiT stem is less than ideal. Pretty much every decent folding bike out there has a folding stem. You guys are so smart I know you can come up with something brilliant. And just imagine … once we power up our BF and go to fold them, we’ve got the batteries to carry so a fully attached system would be that much easier.
Every day when I ride one of my 3 Fridays (including a pink Speeding tikit and a classic Pocket Rocket Pro Petite) I flash back to the incredible 9 years I spent at the company being given free reign to do what I love best – jive with customers, many of whom I remain friends with today. I even see old pals in these comments! It was a job that left me with nothing on my bucket list – something not many careers can offer. The Scholz family is one of most tenacious, inventive and deeply principled entrepreneurial units you could ever work for. Their creativity with the simple wheel ‘n’ steel is astounding – check out this little “tour” of their 2006 catalog showing the breadth of their talent: https://youtu.be/in31HJkj2-Y . It would be easier for them to churn out a “me-too” product with no personality, but I remember Hanz telling me that’s of zero interest to them – that startup energy and creativity is what makes their product – and breed of customer – so fascinating.
The only thing stopping me from getting another BF is… living in a 236 sqft studio!
Small wheels, small footprint, big life: that’s what I do on a Friday.
Lynette! Its so good to hear from you. I am happy to hear that you continue to remember your Bike Friday tenure fondly. I learned so much from your incredible creative talent and passion for communicating the joy of cycling and grabbing life by the handlebars and living fully doing what you love. Your wizardry with words brought a lot to Bike Friday marketing and the on-line community. I still love the head-badge you designed and the “Performance that Packs” tag-line you coined. You added a lot to what Bike Friday has become. Thank you again for sharing so much of yourself with all of us.
Best in two wheeled adventures till your 101!
Hanna Scholz
Wow…didn’t know things had gotten so tough! Glad you folks are on the upswing. Nice to support a company that is woman run, made in USA and sustainable.
“Small wheels, small footprint, big life: that’s what I do on a Friday.” great line from the previous comment
very nice post keep up the good work.
I bought my BF two years ago from an American lady working here in Ireland. It had been purchased as one of a pair back in 2006 and had belonged to her deceased husband. My main reason for buying a folder was to be able to bring it on public transport without having to reserve a bike space in advance. I just love using it to carry everything from camera gear to bottles for the bottlebank and for all my local shopping and social trips. I took it in the suitcase to the Nederlands this Summer and had many a conversation with Dutch people about its great qualities.
Hi km chris from indonesia. i plan to visit japan for 3rd time in june 2018. is there any community of folding bike in japam? im looking friends for touring and doing some picture photography
Hi Chris,
I would suggest you make a similar post on our Facebook Community group, there are a lot of Japanese riders, and they might have more information about the possibility of meeting up. Here’s where you can find that group.
Thank you for writing. Useful to encourage me to try it.
I am also very interested in electric assist for my wife NWT so I am waiting for BF to do something about.The battery must be something that you can carry on a plane
Glad to hear you are interested, a solution to this is already in the works. If you want to call in to our offices and let one of our design consultants know what you’re thinking so you can be first in line when it is available!
Well I sincerely liked reading it. This information provided by you is very helpful Thank you.
I want to do this! Is there a product available to allow the Piccolo to connect onto the deck of a cargo bike? Thanks!
This is something we have talked about and made a few prototypes for but have never made it into a final product…I believe this photo shows a DIY solution. If you are desperately stuck call in and talk to our service department who may have some ideas, but we unfortunately don’t have any solutions to offer. Sorry!
Great journal. Let’s hear it for ripio.
Usually I do not read post on blogs, however I woould like to say that thios write-upvery compelled me too try and do it!
Your writing style has been mazed me. Thanks, quite great post.
We have ridden our New World Tourists in the Bahamas, Germany (twice), Italy, and next month in the Dolomites (Italy again). What a great way to travel: fly in, assemble bike, sleep, leave suitcases, ride, train back, pack up in same hotel, and then fly back. Thank you for such an amazing bike.
My favorite part of this article is when you said that we should focus on getting a good set of wheels. As a new biker, I am still learning on each and every aspect of biking, such as the type of wheels or tires, accessories, and so on and so forth. I started with it as a form of exercise only but now, I already love biking!
I was wondering if you used the Bafang BBSHD. WHY would you get rid of the throttle? That is a safety feature to get through intersections with traffic. I unfortunately have a folding bike with a Bionx hub; because they have gone into receivership, that motor is toast when the battery dies. I will never buy another proprietary motor again. I thought that I’d like the BBSHD on a Haul A Day, but not if you’re limiting it, either the max speed or by not including the throttle. I’d rather get a Luna kit and put one on myself, maybe. I’ve never done anything like that before.
The main reason…we first and foremost are a cyclist company and the throttle goes against what we believe in. It’s a big one for us and it’s important to keep peddling which in the end is actually safer when on two wheels. We are very excited how well the E-Bike Assist system is working not only for us but for so many who have bought the system from us and using it. If you have not tried one yet then we encourage you to do this as you will find that the E-Assist system works perfectly in intersections with traffic among so many other situations you would hope to have a little help in. Hope this helps clarify our thoughts and again we hope you can try one out for yourself to see that we chose this system for many great reasons.
Because of the 11.5″ high BB on my P Llama, in a fast stop (disc brakes that’s real fast) I could not get a foot down* ,
so fell off to the side and in stopping my fall cracked a bone in my wrist..
* Normally I shift my weight onto one foot and put the other down, as I get off the saddle..
Or stop with 1 foot on the curb.
I know this is going to sound funny but I found this picture of an old friend of mine (above) Jodi Sahi. I have lost contact with her and this is the only site I’ve seen her on. If you know her personally could you pass the word to her that Allison Miller (friend from Mount Shasta) would like to get back in touch and pass her my email address ….mountainrambler@hotmail.com.
If she just bought a bike from you and you don’t know her personally Im sorry to bother you
Thanks,
Allison
Due to a motorcycle accident my legs don’t work as well as they used to. Until recently, one of the things I missed most was bicycling. That is no longer an issue, however, due to a (cheap) e-bike I purchased. My found-again freedom brings me great joy!
Having now put many miles on my e-bike, I realize I want and need something of higher quality and reliability. It was Bike Friday’s reputation on those fronts that brought me here. And with great excitement, I was happy to see you offer an e-bike. That happiness was crushed, however, after reading this blog.
For many of us, a throttle is not the ‘cheat’ that you’ve presumed. Rather, it’s a necessity that allows us to put the bike in motion, and to safely cross intersections. Quite frankly, I find your anti-throttle creed to be pretentious, sanctimonious and close minded.
I do want to thank you for posting this blog, however. You’ve saved me from wasting further valuable life exploring the purchase of one of your bikes.
Good afternoon Charles. It is clear that you have not tried one of the E-Assist systems that we offer yet as you would know that this actually works as well if not better than the throttle system. If you have the chance to try a bike with E-Assist on it you will understand how it works better and fairly certain you will change your mind. We as a cyclist driven company, have to stay true to our hearts when building bikes and who we build bikes for. If you wish to just sit and push a button, our bikes are not the right choice for your needs. We hope you find what you are looking for and all the best!
You want to build a spinning broom, with really strong bristles. You’d have to tap into the gearing ti get it spinning fast enough to flick the glass far enough to the side.
Brings back memories of circumnavigating Moorea, the island pictured in the post by bicycle. Unfortunately it was done on borrowed folding bikes not on a BF. Would have been a much better ride on a my NWT but still was a memorable ride. This more than a couple of decades ago and much of the road was unpaved but there was virtually no traffic. Would be interesting to go back to do the ride again to see the changes.
I just recently demoed an electric cargo bike for two weeks. I had never been on an e-assist bike at all before that. With a 70lb bike and a 750W motor, I was able to:
-Go to several meetings for work that I would have had to drive to, to otherwise.
-get up gut-busting hills with an easy effort and not break a sweat, thus going to those meetings in non-sweaty business attire (again, these are meetings I would have had to drive to)
-Make it to my son’s school from my office (normally a ride that takes too long to do and make pickup in time)
-bring my son home from his school.
-perform site visits and other work tasks that would normally require and are often more difficult to do with a car.
I’m sold. Seriously considering electrifying our Friday tandem now.
If you have the chance you should test a Haul-A-Day cargo bike. Just like your tandem, the low center-of-gravity really makes riding a pleasure and even more so with kids on the back. I personally am in love with the system coming from a Yuba Mundo and feel the difference more than most because it truly is so different. Hope you can try one out.
Thank you…it is fixed now. I think when we did the new website a bunch of the old links didn’t connect to the content so there are broken links all over our site. Not making Google too happy with that but not sure how to track them all down…other than time. Thanks for your eyes on this one. Cheers!
How did he get bike from Oregon to NYC? Did dealer in NYC put it together? Cost of delivery for new or previously owned bike Friday?
Thanks
Bob
Hello there Bob. He just went through one of our bike builders to order his bikes. As he was very knowledgeable about folding bikes I am pretty sure he was able to put his bike together with ease when it got to him but we could confirm this. Thankfully our bikes fold so easily that it’s not hard to put them back together again and get on the road quickly. On my last trip I had my pakIt back together in about 6 minutes and a Haul-A-Day back together and riding in about 10 minutes. First time traveling with bikes and it was much easier than I expected. Cheers!
Great trip report. I enjoyed your descriptions and explanations of the different places that you visited.
Garmin and Ride with GPS are great tools, but they can give you some confusing directions at times. If only I could find decent maps.
Look forward to next year’s trip.
Do you expect that Bike Friday will do better or worse if there is a trade war between the US and China?
Great essay, and your shout-out to Worksman made it even greater!
So how will the recent tariff imposed on foreign suppliers affect the bicycle industry? Will it help promote more “Made in the USA” products or just increase the cost of bikes?
The US government’s attempt to repatriate manufacturing industries by means of tariffs will result in the creation of an economy in which Americans sell only to Americans, since their products will be too expensive to compete on world markets, and in which US consumers must accept higher prices and reduced choice (among inferior products, since no nation on earth can be a leader in every field). By closing itself off from global markets the US will create a manufacturing economy which begins to resemble that of the old USSR. Small manufacturers like yourselves deserve sympathy and support. I hope you and others like you will succeed in making the Congress see sense before it is too late.
I fully support what you are trying to do. I am not from the USA but the idea of using local skills to produce the product is something that many countries also need to support. PEOPLE are the mainstay of a thriving economy, not corporations.
I bought my Bike Friday because I could customize it and get exactly what I wanted. A tandem that would fit me and my wife with the components that we wanted. In other cases I start with a bike that has a lot of what I want then have to spend hundreds on customizing it. As long as the frame is the right size and shape that is possible.
There are a few things that I have changed on my bike friday because I had to have it done to a price. Once you include exchange rates it isn’t a cheap bike. Later as the money became available I swapped a few things to match my riding style.
Congratulations on what you have done already. And I wish you all success in the future.
Thank you.
Just thank you.
My Bike Friday is a special member of the family!
I hope that you continue to build you bicycles for the benefit of mankind
Thank you for this excellent post! I agree with the notion of building bikes, as well as ALL products used and sold in America to be made here.
That said, I recently received a petition from your company soliciting signatures to oppose Donald Trump’s tariffs on imported Chinese and other foreign goods. Although the immediate effects of tariffs are to potentially harm U.S. consumers, the long-term purpose and strategy of these tariffs is to force the other nations to bring their trade practices into a more equitable standing with the U.S. For many years, these nations have unfairly “baked in” tariffs and Government subsidies to their products. China is notorious for “dumping” steel at below-market values, manipulating its currency, and blatantly violating US copyright laws, all of which affects your bottom line directly.
Does Bike Friday support these unfair trade practices for short-term relief, or would your company rather return to a time when the US can compete on a more balanced playing field? I encourage you to educate yourselves and support the strategies of this administration, as President Trump is FULLY in support of your notion of returning manufacturing jobs and entrepreneurism back to the United States!
Thanks for building great bikes!
I received two new hips in 2015, and in 2016 I sold my Subaru, and bought a NWT from Bike Friday…how’s my carbon reduction?
I’m jealous! Is my Pocket Rocket a good touring bike? I’ve never toured on it.
It very well can be depending on how you set it up. We have many customers who us their Pocket Rockets for credit-card tours where they don’t need any camping gear. We make many bikes for many needs and the Pocket Rocket is a fun bike for places like Germany on the wine roads. Best way to findout…book a trip. Cheers!
Nice story and not surprised you found that taking your Friday bikes no problem at all. I often have wished I had purchased my Pocket Rocket when I was working, as it would have been great to have it on many business trips to do some exploring in the evenings.
Nevertheless, the Pocket Rocket has been on trips to Canada, USA, Cuba, France, Germany, Czech Republic, and Austria.
Great bike!
Tell us about your choice of bags vs the hard case if you could?
Well with the Haul-A-Day it was pretty easy…it was about 3 days before I was going to leave and I knew I had a bag which it would fit in so the choice was easy. To get it into a hard-case would have been more work and more work when I got to Germany as well. The trip was a quick one so time wasn’t something I had a lot of for building and tearing down bikes so it was the logical choice. Happy it worked out as it was easy and fun to have the bike we love most along for the ride. Cheers!
Can anyone who has packed a haul a day please share if you were able to check it as standard size luggage? Or was an oversized fee necessary?
Thanks!
I enjoyed your story. It reminded me of a two week business trip I took to Germany five years ago. Germany is a super bike friendly country, and riding my personal PR allowed me to better experience the small things that you miss when riding in a motor vehicle. I kept it folded in the back of my rental car, which is really the way to do it to keep on top the extra food and drinks consumed.
I live with my in-laws when I am over there and boy do I understand the extra food and drinks. Thankful we had bikes this time as well. Cheers!
Outstanding story and accomplishment, Cassandra. In every pic you look like you’re having a ball. Love that “Cuba es Nuestra” sign: great prop for BF “portrait.” I lust after a BF, continue to receive all sorts of enticements from corporate. Almost bought a Brompton, but can’t see a tour on the 17″ wheels being as rewarding as a BF’s 20″ set up. By the way, I have owned a Giant foldy Expressway for several years, ride it often, but plan no touring. Do you know that bike? Any comparison you could make with with your BF would be very helpful. Via la bici BF! And many more exciting adventures for you.
Would lilke to hear about some of your other tours.
Thanks, all! My wesbsite is http://www.escapingNY.com and you can find tours there! I’ve already heard from quite a few Bike Friday owners and would love to have some of you on one of my tours!
Everything is very open with a clear explanation of the issues.
It was really informative. Your website is very
helpful. Thank you for sharing!
I loved reading this whole journey, but I can’t view the photos– I just see a little sliver of moving panels and the arrows to move right or left. Can you fix this, please? I’m dying to see them! I especially enjoyed the haiku.
http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/doc/21311
Link to our latest journal, a six week, relaxed trip along the Rhone river in Switzerland and France on Pearl, our Bike Friday tandem using the suitcase/trailer set up.
We have loved our tandem and I have loved my NWT. Together they have been a part of many good memories of bike travel. And, what better way is there for traveling?
Hi Elvira,
I live in Sydney, Australia and ordered my Pocket Rocket late last year. I gave Bike Friday my normal bike measurements and they custom built it for me. It arrived early in March ’18 and after putting it together, it fitted beautifully and I am very pleased with my Pocket Rocket. The courier service will handle the custom clearance for you.
Hello I will send you a mail for the first time.
I run a bicycle store in kyoto. The name of the shop is XIE BICYCLE.
I want to become a BIKE FRIDAY dealer.
What kind of contract is necessary to become a dealer.
Thank you for reading.
Hello there. You can email info@bikefriday.com and they will take it from there.
What is the gear-inch range for the pakiT with belt drive and 8-speed
We actually have a wide range we can put on a pakiT so you may have to tell us what you are hoping for and we can get one of our Bike Experts to put something together for you.
If you need more information on this great trip I had leave a comment and I should be alerted. I am in Australia
Inspiring Shirley……well done
If I am 6’1″ 220 lbs and wanted something that has front abd back bag holders what would you recommend. I have a Pak It for commuting now. I would like to use the bike for commuting too for work 15 miles each way and use on the train…is that possible?
Stephan is sending you an email now. Stay tuned and happy trails!
We have done the length of the Loire on our Tandem Tuesday….and then packed it up and headed home. Thanks Bike Friday.
I am interested on the pakiT belt drive one or 4 gears. I want the lightest possible bike to help me commute on the Bart when in San Francisco. I was wondering about the heights and if possible how fast each bike cango?
Hello Ronald. The pakiT is perfect for San Francisco though you might be a little limited by the 4-speed on some of those hills. Not sure what you mean by the heights but as far as speed, it really depends on your not the bike. I average 12-15mph on my pakiT but average 19-22 on my Haul-a-Day due to better gearing and even faster when I have assist on. It’s always best to connect with our bike experts for these kinds of questions so please drop them a line when you have time. info@bikefriday.com or call 1-800-777-0258. Cheers!
How many bikes is enough to have a “fleet”? Do you have examples of programs that have used a grant to help purchase bikes? What is your bulk pricing?
Thanks!
Hello Betsy. I sent your contact info over to our bike experts and they should be able to help you. All the best and happy cycling! J.
Hi im interested in the diamond. can it accommodate drop bars and can it accommodate 20 inch by 2.4 tires? lastly 1 x set up? thanks 40t x 42 cassette? or some 1x set up that is also good for the top end
Hello Rob. Hoping you have heard back from one of our bike experts and got all your questions answered. In the end, we are a custom bike builder and we can do almost any set-up you prefer on our frames. Hope you find what you are looking for and get the chance to explore the world by bike. Cheers! J.
I am 5 ft and have a short reach. I always use a small frame. is your bike one size fits all cuz i know that won’t work for me. do all foldup bikes come in one size frame?
I will need to put 2 bike panniers on the rear wheel. so does your bike have a rear bike frame to accommodate this?
8 speed chain drive vs 8speed belt drive. I get from your video the belt drive is grease free.
You sell the backpack for commuting on a train do you sell the luggage as in your video?
Hello Emma. I just forwarded all of your questions to our bike experts to get back to you. All of these questions are super easy for them to answer but the easiest answer is, we are a custom bike builder so most can be answered just with that, but they will expand on that from there. All the best and thanks for reaching out. J.
І сouldn’t rеfrain from commenting. Well written!
I was starting to get pissed off that my very recent BF e-upgrade did not ship with Micro-Burst Technology, until I put my glasses on 🙂
Happy to bring you full-circle on emotions today. We had to have a little fun with this one and being a Dad(Jarl here), Lego mini-figs come easy around these parts. All the best and I look forward to seeing how the Micro-Burst Technology works for you! Cheers!
I’m another long time cyclist who thought he’d only want an e-bike in his dotage. My commute to work is 35 miles and 2000 feet each way. I would bike that a few times per year, but mostly rode the bike for exercise after driving the commute. Last year it finally clicked, I put an electric kit on an old bike and it turns out I can commute on the e-bike a couple days per week and leave the car at home. Mornings are cool enough I can get to work without breaking a sweat, which sounds minor but is a big issue since we do not have showers. The e-bike looks like it will actually pay for itself soon, my direct gas and toll cost of about $14-16 per day is replaced by 1.2 kW-h of re-charge, or about $0.25.
Good story and great perspective Rick. Thanks for sharing. We are going to get a bunch more company here as people discover this. In the series coming up we will get that cost to ride down to near zero!
I am another one who for now says not for me! However I have been diagnosed with ALS, but Great news is that there is true hope! I am in a phase one drug study that is aimed at curing my genetic form of ALS! Remember the ice bucket challenge, that helped find these drugs! For now I will continue to say no. Partly because my NWT has crossed the U.S. from Florence to Bar Harbor Maine and the Pacific Coast from Bellingham to San Diego both sides self supported me. I have real hope that another is possible!
Hello John. Sounds like you have a story to share about what you are going through and how you are fighting the good fit, using two wheels to help fight that good fight. Are you willing to share your story and maybe some pictures to help inspire others to fight their own fight and stay healthy both physically and mentally as well? Thank you for sharing and we look forward to supporting you in any way we can in your journey!
I love my e-bike!! I am 82 and biked the Erie Canal last year with my friend. We both had Bike Fridays New World
Tourist, but I added the e-assist. I am biking the Columbia River Gorge this year (both ways) and a 100+ ride up by Sisters, Oregon in June. I ordered 3 more batteries as found that I would run out of juice on the long rides 40-45 miles. My 3 batteries pretty well max out at about 32 miles. I ride petty much in the #2 speed most of the time, but can use the extra for a boost up a very steep grade. I noticed your article “Riding on Sunshine” and was wondering if you have
added some kind of mechanism that is using sunshine to help power the bike?? Please let me know and if so, can this
be added to the already existing e-assist bikes? I have to switch out my batteries with the new ones I bought to get
the extra distance and can’t take the 6 batteries on the airplane, so am shipping 3 of them to my friend in Oregon and she will bring them to me. I talked with a lady this winter that says her electric bike charges while she is
riding. Forgot what the make of it is.
Marrianna, an impressive group of trips. It is encouraging for so many of us. The purpose of my future articles going forward is to try and answer those questions. From my experience to date to charge your batteries by solar takes about a 2 ft by 2ft solar collector about 6 hours in full sun. Just round numbers but a 50 watt collector I have is about 2×2. My battery is 300 watt hrss. Your 3 LIGOs are also 300watt hrs. ^ hrs is about what is used in the industry for expected peak hours a day with sunshine. Some panels do not meet their expectations. I use an intermediate storage battery and have my collector feeding it all the time. It is big enough to charge my bike battery 1 or two times which means it handles some shaded days with low collections. It also does my phones, my computer tablets and some other small. It would be a challenge to have the bike charge while riding. Maybe their bike had regenerative braking which is very minor charging. A solar panel on your bike that big would be very unwieldy while you ride. I have seen folks pull trailers with them installed. I do not know what percentage charge they got from that. I do think that you can carry on at least 5 of the LIGO batteries at a time. I also use the 2nd setting most of the time. I am usually pulling a small trailer. I need to figure out how to add solar to it and if it would extend my range much. I will print some pictures of my commuter Friday. A BF Oregon Traveler, with front hub motor I am testing, that I also ride when I travel using the TravelCase. Best in Cycling / Alan
Great good story and now you have channeled your inner salesman. Can’t wait to get an E-bike.
Great story on developing solar power for ebike travel. Did you consider purchasing a second battery for your ebike that could be plugged into the converter during sun light hours. That would eliminate the necessity to store electricity
Wonderful, practical article. Thanks, I have a Chevrolet Spark All Electric. ( I call it Sparky.) I wish someone would write a simple “how to” like yours so that I could run my Chevy spark with solar from panels (to be installed) on my garage roof. Thanks for the inspiration.
Eva Heyman and many others are remembered here , its so sad what happened and we never should never forget what monsters where in power during 40/45 in Europe. Just out of curiosity, How the founders of Bike friday found the diary of Eva and what is the conection between founders and this poor little jewish girl?
Kind regards R.Eliasar
We will never forget. We had a Bike Friday owner connect us with this story which we had to share, for the very reason that we should never forget so we can do our best not to repeat history like this again. Paul Moore named our company but it was from Robinson Crusoe, but curious if maybe he had heard this story as well? Something to look into. Our hearts go out to those who still suffer as this young girl did and hope that one day, we can all make this world a better place.
It’s very disappointing to find out the limit now is only 2 x battery modules that you can carry on an aircraft. It sounds like the appealing option of being able to travel with the e-bike is now not possible. It would be fantastic however if it were possible to rent the LiGo batteries whilst overseas. Is there such a thing? Could that be such a thing?
Hello there Carolyn. The limit isn’t actually two and often we have customers who are each bringing four batteries. Sorry for any misunderstanding as this is the only option in the world to easily fly with your Electric Bike. Happy to help answer any questions if you have them. info@bikefriday.com
Thanks for your reply Jarl. Under the FAA regulations this is what the ruling is:
(ii) For a lithium ion battery, the Watt-hour rating must not exceed 100 Wh. With the approval of the operator, portable electronic devices may contain lithium ion batteries exceeding 100 Wh, but not exceeding 160 Wh and no more than two individually protected lithium ion batteries each exceeding 100 Wh, but not exceeding 160 Wh, may be carried per person as spare batteries in carry-on baggage.
I’m not sure whether this is new information ?
How much weight is allowed on the tandem?
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to find high quality writing like yours nowadays. I seriously appreciate individuals like you!
Take care!!
Love what you are doing, you always come up with amazing ideas of articles Thanks for sharing amazing things with us.
Keep doing great work.
Please send fender installation instructions for Haul a Day bike. Thank you.
Hello there. Well you are on the page which we would send you so not sure what else we can do other than resend you to this very page? Happy to help if we can. service@bikefriday.com
Steven F. is the “Bike Friday lover turned investor in our company.” He is in the Bike Friday newsletter — what is that interesting red bag (in the photo) on the back of the bike!? It is anchored to the seat post?
Steve uses a Transit rear rack, one he doesn’t think is made anymore. He attached it up higher and use waterproof Arkel panniers, ones he bought in Eugene. Hope that helps.
What bike is depicted above with the road bike handle bars, Family or Two’day, or is this a special order? Your website does not have a photograph of the Family Tandem Bike. What does it look like and what is the difference between the two you offer?
Sorry you are not able to see the photos on this website. I have forwarded your info to our team and they should be able to answer any of your questions. If you come back to this page you should try scrolling down the page as there are photos in the body of the content as well. All the best!
If my bike Friday is here in CDA, Idaho would I have to bring my bike to your shop to have the electric assist added? What is the cost? Could I put your e assist on my carbon tree women bike?
Thank You
Hello Mary. Not sure of the exact cost as it depends on what exactly you are looking for as there are a few options for E-assist. Best to talk to your build expert via phone or email. We only work on Bike Friday bikes so not sure about your carbon tree bike. You can contact your bike expert directly via your paperwork information(how you bought your bike) or email us at info@bikefriday.com. Have a great day and happy cycling!
Cymbal not ‘symbol’ in the description of carryon for the Airglide. Would love to buy them all!
Thank you James!Ahh… spelling has never been my talent but I do try hard to get others more talented to edit my copy. Thank you for your help.
Can I add E-assist to an existing Bike Friday Two’s Day Tandem? Is this something I could do if I purchased the components from Bike Friday or would I have to send in the bike? What would be the recommendation setup for us? Our total weight is about 275 plus some light weight packs. Thanks Bob
Hi Robert,
We usually can install an e-assist on a Tuesday, however, we are unable to get the motor at this time. However, we should in the future. Please contact sales@bikefriday.com to get on the list. Thanks
Ahhh….don’t sell them. Make big frames and mount them on the walls in your building. That’s priceless history you will never get back.
To clarify – I meant big PICTURE frames, lol.
I get two sentences into this and the name that pops into my mind is Skip Hunt, who I’d not thought of for years, and I wonder if this is simply from mention of Nomad or is it because you mentioned unicycles, so am I remembering a unicycle in the front window at Nomad, or hanging on the wall (and if so, it had never occurred to me that y’all would have built the unicycle)? Skip Hunt built dulcimers and I think his place was across the street from Nomad, more or less, so maybe if you looked out the front window you’d see both a unicycle and Skip’s shop? Memory is a strange thing.
I’d love to own Hanz’ signature Twin Air tandem – having flown it in its single suitcase to the 5 boro bike tour in NYC way back in 2003 – but unfortunately my captain prefers his Bacchetta Aero recumbent!
Hanz is keeping that one! Its such a special jewel and I think he still rides it some times.
Hi. What is the weight for a Pakit with fenders and Shimano alfine hub gear .
Atle
Hi Atle,
I don’t want to make any weight claims as it depends on the configuration. Best for you to call in and speak with our service rep and get that information. They can help you out.
Hi there. I’m so excited that I found your blog here. My husband and I are about to take off to ride the VDLP north to south starting we think in Astorga. We have new ebikes having traded our original Bike Fridays for NWTs. We don’t want to ride the original Jacobean route but rather follow it on small roads that parallel it. Any support or references you might have for us would be welcome. We’re so excited. We fly into Madrid and then will make our way by bus or train to Astorga or Leon, not sure. We have 3 weeks.
Gracias!
Hi Marilyn,
That’s pretty exciting. We would love to see pics of your ride or repost any blog entries you make on the trip. I don’t have any references offhand, but you might join our Yak forum list and see who could chime in your trip. Have a great time.
The excellent guide (2nd photo above) I had is found at www. guiasbicimap.com Called La Via De La Plata, Caminos Mozarabe y Sanabres en bicicleta by Valeria Mardones and Bernard Datcharry. When I googled and found the website I followed a link/or contact us and Bernard wrote back to me and told me how to order and pay via paypal and he posted it out to me. It has the camino marked in red and gives alternative quiet sealed country roads marked in green. It is very comprehensive with accommodation. It is in Spanish as I couldn’t find anything in English….but if you don’t have any Spanish learn how to use the free google translate app that you point your phone camera at and it translates immediately off line
Commuted to work by bicycle for over 15 years, putting more miles on the bike friday than the car. Installed a solar system over 10 years ago. Added panels to it after purchasing an electric car over two years ago. Plan to add more and battery storage to go off the grid and disconnect the natural gas a few years from now.
So I have begun transition to solar, ride a bike rather than driving when practical, drive an electric car, try to reduce and reuse, recycle what can be recycled, and went vegan ( mostly).
Thank you Eric for taking all these action steps and being an example for others to learn and see how it can look. Can you share some simple lessons, insights or tips that you learned through your experience that can support others to take steps more easily themselves? We all need support to make changes.
I drve an electric car, brought utensils to work (instead of using plastic ones in kitchen), use reusable packaging for food and shopping. I recycle as much as possible. All small things, but if everyone does the small things will add up.
Yes! I agree. When all of us do a bunch of small things every day it can add up into a significant positive impact. I have noticed for myself that when I commit to paying attention and looking for small things I can do, to use less resources and create less pollution, then I start to notice opportunities I didn’t notice before and it is easier to take action. This all creates momentum in my life that makes it easier to start taking action on bigger things.
Once I got my pakiT, I sold my car! I spent a year driving it as little as possible, testing out the idea, and just needed the perfect bike to make it possible. With my pakiT so light I can easily take it up stairs to our public transit or carry it inside wherever I go, life without a car became a reality. I also have a Burley Travoy which is use with my single speed dahon (a bike I don’t mind locking on the street in theft-prone Bay Area) to handle shopping and Costco runs. The car was sold in February – and I have not missed it at all. I love being able to bike to meet people and then just quickly fold the pakiT into their trunk, it fits in any car. I also can ride it to a car share vehicle and fold it inside if needed, so I don’t have to stress if I do find I need a car. BF made going car free possible for me.
As for tips for going car free …Move slowly. You don’t need to make the jump to car free quickly or all at once. Every trip you do by bike is worthwhile. Ask yourself if you CAN do it by bike, and..if not…why not. Can you address those impediments? Maybe you need a different route, or a different cargo system or a different bike. Or maybe you need some electric assist. Make a list of the things which seem to stand in the way of going car-less. Practice using your car as little as possible and your bike as often as you can. Can you manage if you just use a car share or uber once in a while? Can you manage if your bike is easy to use on public transit? Live like you don’t have a car for a couple months and see how it goes. Take your time and work out the problems and you can do it.
Thank you Lin. Reading about how your pakiT has allowed you to go car free brings such a big smile to my face!!! Hooray! Thank you for setting the goal and taking each step to accomplish it. I would love to have a picture of you and your bike and any tips you can share with others that have similar aspirations. I want to share true stories of people using their personal power to change their lives and there for improve our worlds health. You inspire me. My email is hannas@bikefriday.com
When we first moved into a city apartment, we were stumped about where to store our bikes. They started outside, chained to a fence, and were promptly vandalized. Enter Bike Friday. The compact wheels allowed us to store the bikes in a little alcove next to our front door, even without folding them. Secure storage allowed us to commute to work by bike, and when our 18-year-old car gave up the ghost, we opted not to replace it. We have been car free for over ten years, and our whole family gets to work and school on bikes. Weekends see us on our tandem or as a family of four on quad tandem (no, that one is not a Bike Friday :-). Though we now live in an apartment with great bike storage, we still enjoy our Bike Fridays – we got used to the nimble performance in city traffic.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful story about your whole family solving a problem and taking the opportunity of cutting fossil fuel dependence together. A great inspiration to share with others. It is possible even for a whole family. I would love to get a picture of you and your bikes and any tips your learned on your journey that might help others follow in your example. My email is hannas@bikefriday.com.
I hope you find someone who is the right fit. BF does need to make changes to survive but I’d hate to see it lose the things that make it special (US made, customizable, real local people). I wish more people knew about your HAD cargo bike – it’s so much better and more compact than the well-known ones. Hoping for great results from your search!
Hello Lin,
Thank you for your well wishes. I am in full agreement. There are so many special and valuable things about Bike Friday we need the right fit and we will make sure we find it.
The Haul-a-Day is one of my top favorites for competitive and special value potential for the future. My Haul-a-Day is purple with electric assist and I love it!
-Hanna
At the front things are just as good, with the vast majority of changes handled with minimal fuss or effort. The great thing about electronic groupsets is that the motor in the front derailleur gives more power than can be offered by mechanical front derailleurs, meaning more assured shifting, even under load.
Do you ship to Canada?
Yes we ship to Canada often!
hey hanna! im from argentina e saw, live brave rider ridding the carreteira austral on a new world tourist. im looking for one but there is no resseler in entire continent! here we have bromptons, dahons, carrymes, if reach, terns but few to none bike fridays! we want our pocket rockets and packits!
Hello Pedro,
I am happy to have my shipper investigate what it would take to ship you a bike to Argentina. Just let me know what your shipping address is. Its best to send your information to our main email info@bikefriday.com instead of posting it here. Just mention where you want the bike shipped to and we will see what we can do.
So pretty!!! Someone on the street told me today, as I was stopped at a red light on my Haul-a-day, “That’s a great bike you got” I replied, “I know!” But he insisted, “No, that’s a PERFECT bike!”. I was in a rush and the light turned green, so I just replied:”I knoooooowwww!!!!!”
Thanks for this fun and well-produced video! Love my Black (!) Pocket Rocket Pro but need an off road bike too. Diamond Lama? (Love the one sitting in your showroom) or NWT? I’ll be calling you before Cyber Monday!
HI Shirley, just came across your stunning blog. We rode the Camino Frances in 2013, and are riding the Portugese (well from Porto to Finisterre) in June this year (2020). Seriously would love to ride the Via de la Plata for my 80th birthday.
Hoping you are in Melbourne so we could meet to discuss. Otherwise just a reply to get things moving would be appreciated.
Thanks
Barry
Just found your entry. No doubt your plans were wrecked due to pandemic. I am in rural Victoria. Phone me on 54248374
Question: What is the method of controlling the electric assist?
The electric assist control is on the left side of the handlebar and has a simple grip shifter that allows you to easily change your electric assist from 0-4 levels with out taking your hand of the handlebar. I love it on my bike!
-Hanna
What range does the battery have?
The small battery option has a 30 mile range and the large battery option has 60 mile range.
How does it fold/break apart for packing into the suitcase?
The Ever-E-Day has binder bolts in the middle of the frame. When you loosen them completely you can pull the bike apart into two halves. Then you just take off the front wheel, pedals, seat post and handlebar stems and it all packs into the same standard airline check-able suitcase we carry for our other folding Bike Fridays. It is simpler to pack than the folding bikes as there are smaller pieces to pack into the case verses the folding bikes that are one full frame that’s just folded.
I really like this bike I have one of your bikes that you redid into an electrical one with the wheel and ligo batteries – Can I trade mine in also can I use my ligo batteries.?
Yes! You can trade-in your old Bike Friday towards a new Ever-E-Day. Yes you can also use your current LIGO batteries with the Ever-E-Day. Just contact a bike expert: Walterl@bikefriday.com or peterb@bikefriday.com. They can help you set it up.
I ride an old Moulton using cleats but am afraid of the twitching now of hitting railroad tracks at an angle and other age associated hazards being 68. How twitchy are these electric assist Friday frames? Are the front forks sprung like my Moulton’s ?forks?
Though suspension was a hallmark of Alex Moulton’s designs, even before the so-called space frame, it’s not something that we have found the need for. We once had a model with a front suspension and it saw limited success given the extra weight and cost compared to the benefit. Using cromoly steel frames and our own unique frame design allows for a comfortable ride without the added complexity of suspension. And if you do want to add comfort, the quickest, easiest, least expensive, and lightest weight solution is wider, higher volume tires, as evidenced by the latest trend in the bike industry, gravel bikes.
As for the wheels, smaller wheels are necessarily more responsive than large wheels. While this might lead one to think it’s more dangerous, I would argue the exact opposite. The ability to turn on a dime and quickly correct one’s direction with limited input is most certainly a benefit. If you suddenly realize you’re not perpendicular to the railroad tracks, you can more easily resolve that issue at the last minute on a smaller wheel than on a big wheel. On traditional big wheel bikes, responsiveness and stability are mutually exclusive, i.e. the more responsive the bike, the less stable. In our case, though, the responsiveness comes from the size of the wheel alone and not from the geometry. The geometry that we use on our bikes is that of a traditional old school touring bike, i.e. very stable. We thus provide something not readily found: a bike that is both responsive and stable.
What’s the battery capacity it looks rather small from the pictures. Using the lowest setting how many miles approx on flat surface
The battery in the GIF of the bike without racks has a range of 30 miles for normal riding. For flat roads on the lowest setting, we sometimes get much more, but can’t promise that. We also offer another battery that has a range of 60 miles for normal riding. (this one is shown in the GIF with all the racks, its still pretty lightweight). Because we use a modular bikepacking-style bag system, it’s easy to upgrade and swap out extra batteries to get however much range you’d like!
Wow, it is sweet. If it folded as well, I might, just might, consider giving up my pakiT+Travoy. Although @ 33 lbs it’s a bit heavier than my pakiT. On second thought, I’ll just wait until you guys make a 20lbs e-cargo bike. Yeah, you’ll do it. I’m patient and I know this is just the start of the process for you, lol.
Does it have integrated lights? Will it fit two kids in the Whoopie thingy? We love our Haul a Day but could use a smaller kid hauler with e assist.
The Mid-Drive system that comes on the Ever-E-Day does include an integrated light system that is controlled by the same handle bar mounted controller that you use to adjust 0-4 levels of assist. The rear rack options and whoopee bar is only set up to carry one kid, not two. The Haul-a-Day is still the best option to carry two kids. However the electric assist mid-drive system we are using on the Ever-E-Day can also be retrofitted to the Haul-a-Day. Our service department has been very busy doing electric retrofits on all our Bike Fridays this past year. If you want yours done soon you should contact our service department right away as their schedule is already out a few months.
What brand and model motor are you using? Are you using the Grin Tech LiGo batteries on this model and if so how many come with the bike for the $2195 price?
The Mid-Drive motor we are using is: Tongsheng TSDZ2
It is very popular in Asia and we have had good experience with it on our Haul-a-Day over the last several years.
It uses a strain guage to smooth out changes in shifting and pedal effort. This makes the transitions much smoother than other motor styles like Bafang that do not have a strain guage.
The Ever-E-Day Minimalist starts at $2,195 and comes with a battery with a 30 mile range that is not Airline Legal. However we offer battery upgrades from there to a 60 mile range battery or the LiGo batteries.
So yes we do offer LiGo Batteries from Grin Tech as a battery upgrade option as the price tag is several hundred more than the other batteries that are not Airline legal. We offer 3,4 or 5 LiGo’s. You choose based on your plans.
Is there a throttle of any kind? I built a bafang as my first ebike, and the throttle lever is the best feature -a short burst to get away from cars at stoplights, or an extra burst to get up a hill without needing to shift. It has become a “must have” feature for my next bike.
The Ever-E-Day does not have a throttle (boost with out pedaling) it only has a boost while pedaling at 4 different levels. There are several reasons we have chosen this set up:
1. Electric Bikes with throttle’s are not legal in several countries and USA states. We want to offer a bike that is legal to ride all over the world.
2. Having a throttle does take additional bike handling skills to ride safely around corners, on wet surfaces and such that just are not the same handling skills as pedaling and steering a bicycle that requires pedaling.
Instead of Hill seT can i have something that can. carry golf clubs?
I am not sure exactly what your question is. If you want to carry gold clubs you could do that on the back of our Haul-a-Day Cargo bike or our Ever-E-Day cargo bike or in a trailer you attach to the back of one of our bikes. Please contact one of our experts and they have help you find what you are looking for.
What is the torque ( Newton Meters) of the mid-drive motor? I live on a 23 degree hill.
The torque on this mid-drive motor is 80 Newton Meters. It is quite good and much better than any hub motor torque. You do need to use your gears. When you talk to our bike experts they can help you determine the right battery for your hill as the battery can have a significant impact on your ability to ride up a steep hill with a smooth boost.
Have you ever built a bike with the Nuvinci infinitely variable speed rear hub? Most versions are approved to be linked with an e-motor. I think these could have a significant range extending effect.
Yes, we have used the NuVinci. Unfortunately, a lot of customers had problems with theirs, specifically with how fiddly the cable clamps were. Because of the trend of dissatisfaction, we have opted to stop working with them.
Can you instal dynamo in front hub and lights on fenders, and what would be the cost of that options ?
Sure, but there are lots of different options for dynamo hubs and lights, so you really should get in touch to discuss your specific budget and requirements.
I own a low mile Q and would like to go elect.
I was hit by a truck in my Suburban 2 years ago and I now have limited use of my legs from Siatica nerve damage. The best therapy is to use my legs and I need the low step thru. Could I trade in my Q or make the front wheel electric. I seldom use the 3nd wheel
I see that you’re already taken care of, Gary, but if anyone else is wondering the same thing, we can retrofit old bikes with electric assist and you also accept trade ins.
What is the chain tensioner you’re using that lets you properly tension the wheel while using the non-turn washers for the alfine hub?
This is simpler than it looks. Since we’re using horizontal drop outs (or, as Sheldon Brown would prefer it, rearward facing fork ends), we can just borrow something oft used in the BMX world. The specific tensioner we use at time of writing is a Sunlite, UPC#072774016242.
Can you add the heavy rider/cargo to this bike? Or would I need to go to a Haul A Day
I can see you already got your bike on order, Jen, but if anyone else is wondering the same, it depends on the specifics of the load. The Ever-E-Day can carry *a lot* so while the frame upgrade may seem like a nice idea, it may not be necessary but you’d spend more and deal with a heavier bike for it. That said, get in touch to discuss your specific needs!
Do you have dea lili er at newyork city
Our dealer in Manhattan is bfold.com.
We are interested in the Bantam bike for our daughter with Achondroplasia, do you have any available right now? She’s interested in the electric option. Thank you!
Jill, I know you already got a bike on order, but for anyone else that’s looking at this, we custom make nearly every bike so it’s rare that we ever have any stock. However, we’re happy to build one!
What model is the 9-36 cassette on the El Camino build option? Or rather, what hub is it?
SunRace in both cases. The hub is a SX1 to be specific.
What size of diamond Llama should I chose for a teen girl 160 cm height
What point make the heavy up grade can withstand more load eg thicker tube etc please clarify
Thank you
Yuthyong
We customize the fit of each bike, so we can take care of sizing. The frame upgrade is not necessary for a rider under 118kg.
For the Camino Del Santiago spec:
9-36 Cassette
What cassette and hub are used to achieve that?
SunRace SX1 hub and CSSX0 cassette.
Hi. Do u hv stock for bike fri foldable bike??
Tks
Ken
At the time of writing, we do not, but please contact your local dealer!
In the unpacking video, it is stated that the bike can fit into a suitcase for air travel. Is that true of the “Bike Everyday 8-speed carbon drive” upgrade as well? From the photos, it looks like there is a rear-wheel bike rack and wheel guards for rain on that upgrade, so I was wondering if this statement still applied.
Yes it is, even with all that stuff on it.
Hi,
These batteries are only 98 Watts so there is no limit. They are brilliant. We took five with us no problem.
Mo pesan bike friday utk speed
If you’re looking for help in Indonesia, please get in touch with our dealer!
Buy America Compliant. What does this mean? Also, when you deliver a bike is it fully assembled. I’m no mechanic. I’m an 80 year old senior living on a fixed income in Berkeley and I need to exercise and ever since they closed the Y I haven’t been able to swim so I think bicycling is the answer. I like light bikes that are sturdy and can take me anywhere although most of my riding will be in town.
Allen, I know you’ve asked this question by email but to answer it for the general public, America Compliant is terminology related to certain grant money that is available for fleet sales. Also, we don’t usually deliver the bike ready to ride, but we’ll already have tuned it up and everything so the small amount of assembly is no big deal. Compacting the bike down a tad allows us to provide significantly less expensive shipping costs.
I like your bicycle design . I m from Singapore in 3rd party logistics doing lady mile delivery . Keen to explore your bike for food n other deliveries
Check out our dealer in Singapore at mybikeshopsg.com!
Scot…after three years, I just saw this comment that you had written. Is this in Twisp or elsewhere. I remember your sister telling me that she couldn’t keep up with your travels. I would like to know more about you and chosen style of simplistic living. Thank you! Don
I have a 2006 custom Pocket Llama that I was able to modify last year to accommodate a 20″ RST suspension fork. I had to have the factory make me a new stem connector and I had to add headset shims to convert the 1.25″ head tube to 1.125, and replace the proprietary Bike Friday stem/handlebar combo with standard equipment plus an upside-down 7/8ths seat tube and various ships, but it now fits me much better and is a very comfy ride.
Is the new diamond Llama “suspension ready”? Can it take a front suspension fork with causing fatal stress on the head tube/down tube joint? Or does it need further gusseting? And what are the head tube dimensions, for threadless headsets?
When we have done suspension (Air Llama, Pocket Gnu), we didn’t do anything different with the head tube/down tube joint. That said, the Diamond Llama is not designed for suspension, so your mileage may vary. We’re using a simple 1.125″ threadless headset.
Hi there,
I love your bikes, but the website, well that’s another matter entirely, I find it really difficult finding some of the information I’m looking for and often navigating back to something I saw before turns into a chore…
In the case of Packit – folded size? (it says 36″x25″x12″ in the additional info tab, but that’s way larger than the NWT at 32″x24″x12″) is that a typo? Also impossible to find out if the Packit can be rolled on it’s wheel when folded, like the Tikit? I own both NWT and Tikit and find the ability to roll the Tikit when folded absolutely essential.
Luggage: There’s an option for rear rack on the Packit, but no picture – is it a low rack of the Tikit type? Is it folding rack? Is it packable for travel? How about front rack? Or any other way of attaching luggage to the front? Again – there’s a couple of confusing pictures with front and rear packs attached, without any description or link to a product.
I know, I can contact Customer service and they’ll answer, but all this is essential info and should be available on the bike model’s page.
Cheers,
Nick
There’s two possible folded sizes, depending on how much you compact it down, as you can see on this page:
Fits into small spaces: 28″ x 17″ x 8″ when folded and packed into the backpack.
Quick compact fold: Folds in under 20 seconds to 38″ x 24″ x 10″ (96 cm x 61 cm x 25 cm)
The pakiT is not a tikit, although it seeks to serve the same need. Instead of focusing on the fastest fold, the pakiT focuses on lightweight, simplicity, and compactness. So it’s not really fair to think about the tikit or compare it to the the tikit, as it’s an entirely different thing.
The pakiT cannot roll on any wheels (this is why we don’t mention it, just as we don’t on the New World Tourist page).
There is no front rack and the rear rack is really only good at carrying a trunk bag. It can stay on the bike to fold or pack in the suitcase, though.
The other pieces of luggage you see are just various and sundry things available in the general bike industry. If you want to carry stuff on a pakiT, that’s how to do it. I use a Carradice SQR bag, for example. Not only do we not carry those, but they’re kind of hard to get since they come from the UK.
Is it possible that my order is sent to Singapore? How much would the shipping charge?
We have a dealer in Singapore which you can find at mybikeshopsg.com.
Can the pakit fit a 11 speed rear derailleur with a narrow-wide chainring?
Simon, the pakiT can take a narrow-wide chainring and an 11 speed rear derailleur. However, that particular combination usually implies a wide-range 1x setup, which means a very large on the low end of the cassette— that is not going to work. I would expect the upper limit to be a 32 or a 34 tooth cog, and even then, it would be pushing things.
Thanks Walter, I’m going to place my order for a MK2D Frameset from my local dealer. Just want to clarify on the components that could be set-up for a pakit. I love my bikes to be really specs up. I was wondering if the latest sram force/red/rival 1 x 12 speed etap axs with blip shifter and short cage rear derailleur could be used for a 16 inch wheel with enough floor clearance for the rear derailleur ?
Simon, excuse the delay on this response. I’m not sure why I didn’t see your comment before. With the 16″ wheel, you’ll be limited to about a 28-30 tooth large cog in the back.
do you ship to Chile?
We can ship anywhere FedEx can and certainly Chile is one such place. Please get in touch if you’d like to make an order!
Is the Osata a “folding bike”like the other Bike Friday bikes? Does it fit a case? Thanks.
The OSATA doesn’t fold, but it does fit in a suitcase.
Hi a couple of questions pls. In terms of twitchiness is there any noticeable difference between your 2 tandems? What about weight between the two? Just how much do these typically rigged out ready to ride, weigh, but without paniers.
How much time to fold the Tandem Twosday approx. From say a touring perspective, the ready opportunity to be able to fold the Twosday and then store with you, say in room, rather than having to store, secure and hope its all there in the morning could be a major benefit, but what are the disadvantages of the Twosday over the Family?
Nope, they are essentially the same tandem, though the TwosDay *also* can fold in addition to just disassembling. Surprisingly, the weight difference is negligible between the frames, but the weight can vary greatly on parts used. Disassembling to pack in the suitcase might take 20 minutes, but more like 2 to fold it.
Is it possible to order one speed gates carbon drive pakit?
and how much would the additional price be?
Here’s a freewheel version of the singlespeed pakiT with a belt drive.
https://bicycles.bikefriday.com/configure/2145
A fixed gear would be a different story.
hi can i use the pakit for touring is the carrier able to fold with the bike does the bike come with mudguards peddles and saddle how many gears does the pakit have can i add more gears if i want to is the belt driven drive suitable for touring thank you
lorcan, the carrier folds with the bike but it can’t take panniers, so you’d need to carry your gear some other way (trunk bag, or skip the rack altogether with a saddlebag or something of the sort). It can come with mudguards. The saddles and pedals are usually part of all the pakiT designs, but you can choose to remove them if need be. Gearing varies on how you configure it but you cannot have multiple chainrings, so if you want a wide range of gears, you’d want to use an internally geared hub, which is what would typically come with a belt drive. I’d urge you to get in touch directly so we can more specifically discuss your particular needs and which model might be best.
Nice article! Do you have to bring your own bike? Are there any rentals available at/near the starting spot?
You should check with the author. Their website is linked at the bottom of the article.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/543187712445164/?ref=share
This FB group is very useful. I believe some recent post are talking about bike rentals there. I packed my own bike and bike packing to a destination for hike travel really is an adventure 🙂
I’m interested in a Pocket Rocket with Li Go battery Basic $2,000.00 model with the battery is how muchj?
Thank you
Srule Brachman
Srule, I know you’ve been in touch with us since leaving this comment, but for everyone else that’s reading, the electric assist should add about $1100 to any bike design. That’s true, in general, at time of writing, but could very well increase.
What options do you offer for Rohloff hubs on the Llama? And will you sell framesets alone to former mechanics like me, or just full bikes?
We offer Rohloffs. In general, I would not recommend framesets to folks. Even experienced mechanics struggle with some of the details like cable routing and effective gearing. If you enjoy figuring it all out, that’s one thing, but we don’t want to make for unhappy customer experiences. That said, we could be persuaded to offer a frameset…
Hi, how do i get the “bullhorn bars”? I see the picture but it isn’t in any of the option that i see. Can i get a dyno-hub in front also?
Thanks
We can do anything you want. Just let me know what you’d like and I’ll make a quote. For example, which dynamo hub and bullhorn bar are you interested in?
Hi, I would like to change yhe stem of my bikefriday pocket expedition to custom ultralight stem. Is it possible and available ? Thanks.
Contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com to discuss different aftermarket stem options.
can this bike comes completely apart and fit into a suitcase
can this bike comes completely apart and fit into a suitcase for overseas travel
The bike can indeed fit in a standard suitcase, Gary.
This was very helpful as I am planning to do it solor! Thank you 🙂
Hi there, how did you find the NWT on the Alps to Ocean? What sort of tires did you use? How does the bike go on the gravel?
Thanks a lot. I enjoyed your blog.
At the very bottom of the blog post are the email addresses of the authors. We posted it for them here, so they won’t directly receive any notification of your comments through this blog. However, you can always email them!
I can certainly tell you, though, that the bikes do wonderful on gravel!!!
We are moving to the Portland area next year and are interested in a tandem. A folding tandem seems the answer.
Michael, we’ve got a folding tandem, so we’ve got you covered! Get in touch with us with what you’re thinking about doing and how you’d like it configured and we can work up a quote for you. Thanks!
My wife has the Princess Sickness on total comfort care. She would go with me if I promised clean hotels/hostels and good food. Any such accommodations along the way if we do it over 7 or 8 days?
Thanks.
Ray, at the bottom of the blog is a link to the author’s website. There, he has a link to contact him. That would be the way to answer the question!
Please advise your location in Malaysia and your contact details. i am interested in Bike Friday
Joyce, I think at this time our closest dealer is in Singapore. See mybikeshopsg.com.
Can this bicycle be bought with a special-order of certain high-end American-made components?
Rich,
Everything in the bike industry is an option on all of our bikes, including the many small American manufacturers out there.
I will make only two comments:
1. Right now, there’s a huge demand for bikes and bike parts, enough to overwhelm enormous manufacturers like Shimano. The smaller ones are even more overwhelmed. As long as you’re willing to exercise a little patience, I’m sure we can get you whatever you want.
2. We did an anniversary bike where we tried to make a bike 100% American made and we got darn close, but couldn’t get all the way there. Tires are an example where you simply cannot find anything manufactured in America. So if you want a fully American bike, I’m sorry to say it’s simply not a possibility.
If you’d like to discuss this in more detail, please don’t hesitate to get in touch.
I suppose the belt-drive limits to one speed? I don’t see a derailleur.
Is the belt available at an auto parts store like Napa?
When ordering a bike what options are available?
John,
The belt drive is incompatible with derailleurs, but can be used with internally geared hubs to provide a range of gears.
The belt *is* made by Gates, whose belts are readily found at places like Napa, but I seriously doubt they carry any of Gates’ bike-specific products.
As far as options are concerned, basically everything in the bike industry is an option. If you’d like to go over all the details and relevant possibilities, feel free to get in touch!
I agree. I rode my new World Tourist in the Netherlands in 2018 and 2019 and I cannot think of a better place to tour on a bike. Great bike paths and hotels and bed and breakfasts everywhere. In 2019 I set up my bike at the airport and rode away. In 2019 I rode from Amsterdam to Copenhagen. Germany and Denmark were very good for bike touring however the Netherlands remains the best.
I am canadian dairy farmer who does camping. Living just outside Ottawa
Is there a dealer close by
There is not, but we can help you no matter where you are. That means we can consult with you by phone, email, VoIP, etc. to figure out what you want and then we can ship the assembled bike right to your door. Please get in touch and we’ll get you taken care of. Thanks!
Hi, are any of the bikes above avaliable? Im looking to buy a Bike Friday.
Regards,
Calvin Sim
Singapore
Calvin, Hanna’s Air bike is available, as you can see on the pre-loved page, but as you’ll see there, we typically would not ship a pre-loved bike outside of the contiguous United States. I would urge you to get in touch with your local dealer instead!
For Peter Bear,
Hi Peter,
My name Is John Hamerslough, Phil Hammerslough’s brother, I’m the the one with one “m”.
I am looking for an excellent 1 1/4 trailer hitch bike rack for Phil’s tandem.
Do you have any suggestions ?
We almost lost it off a Cutis upright 2 bike trailer hitch that folded away from the hatch last summer so I sold it. Since the tandem has a long wheel base I have not seen one that would work. We do take it apart for longer trips but I have a smaller car now. Thanks for your help.
Sincerely,
John
Looking for some help here.
John, I may not be Peter, but your solution is the Draftmaster from ATOC. Note that we don’t sell those or any other racks for automobiles, but you should be able to order direct from ATOC. Cheers!
Hello there!!Is it possible to order this front rack for my bike friday rocket pocket pro .im from Pasig city Philippines. How much would it cost me plus the shipment? Staysafe and Godbless
Gerard, you can order lots of things off of our store at store.bikefriday.com. You should be able to get accurate shipping rates from that. The unfortunate thing, though, is that the Pocket Rocket Pro does not have mounts for a front rack.
I’m looking for an electric quad bike… Can you build one for me?
Sorry, Jan, but we do not build quads. I do know that the number one resource for tandems in America, our dealer in New Jersey, Tandems East, has been doing e-assist stuff and can probably at least make some good suggestions. Find them here: http://tandemseast.com. Good luck!
I came by a BikeFriday as a result of a difficult divorce by a couple who both owned a BikeFriday. The woman was so mad that she cut all the cabling off her soon to be former husband’s bike. I am now enjoying rebuilding this bike. I have replaced all the cables, saddle, peddles, bar tape, etc. I have a few questions with which I hope you can help. The serial number is F172. When was it made? What model is it? It has 20 x 1/2 in tires so are they 406 rims?
I feel so lucky to have come by this bike and am really looking forward to getting it up and running, so thanks for any help you can give.
Richard, that one is a piece of history! It’s so old it predates our current database, so I can’t give you much in the way of specifics, but this would certainly be within those first few years of our existence. Back then, we really only had one model with many variations. If the tire is a 1.5″, that’s most likely a 406, but if you measure the outside rim diameter or inside tire diameter (technically, it’s the tire bead diameter so those are close approximations, but it will work) in millimeters, you should have your answer quite readily. If you have any other needs, I urge you to reach out to our service department at service@bikefriday.com. Enjoy the new bike!
What is the wattage of the 36 v Tongsheng mid-drive used on your Ever-e-Day Minimalists please?
John, the TongSheng TSDZ2 we use is a 350W. We use the same motor wherever we use a mid-drive, including all the other Ever-E-Day models.
I have just located your website. I have a grandson who I would like to get him a bike for his Birthday. His Birthday is June 20th . He will be 11 years old. I would like to know what you would need in order for to to make him a Custom bike. He has several cousins and a brother that is forever visiting grandma who has a place for them to ride their bikes which you can see the sadness that he doesn’t have a bike to ride. Please let me know what aI would need to send you and what is your payment plan. Lastly how long does it take for you to customize a bike for someone like Tristan.
Barbara, we would be happy to help out. Before I delve in too deep into the details, I should probably get some more clarity on what the situation is. Does he have some special needs that prevent him from getting a traditional bike? I can make some assumptions based on the bike you’re looking at, but want to be sure. Please get in touch with me directly and we can discuss this more. Thanks!
Hi there!
I have a 1999 pocket rocket, freshly tuned up and in perfect condition. I will be selling it online but curious to know if you guys would want to purchase from me, as it looks like you sell them as well. Let me know what you think!
Rebecca, we don’t buy bikes back, but we do take trade-ins for new bike orders. So unless you want a new Bike Friday to replace to old one, we don’t have what you’re looking for. However, there is our Facebook group and our forum (yak.bikefriday.com) that would be a good place to post an ad. Good luck!
Hi. I am interested to get the Diamond Llama. Do you guys ship it assembled to Singapore?
Iwan, please contact our dealer in Singapore, My Bike Shop (https://mybikeshopsg.com) to place an order there. Thanks!
Any chance you will move to a 1×11 or 1×12 transmission in the future? I just converted my mountain bike and added the single SRAM twist shifter and would never go back.
They’re options for our bikes like any others. Only caveat is that the small wheel will limit the maximum cog size.
i own a new world tourist i purchased from you several years ago. it hasn’t been rode for several years. what would you estimate costs would be to do an overhaul check everything.
new grease if you feel it is necessary. tires? speedometer? also, when could it be done and how long would it take.
Ken, a bike that has seen only light use and hasn’t been ridden in several years but is otherwise properly stored might not need very much at all. On the other hand, a bike that was used hard and put away wet is a completely different situation. That said, I think it’s important not to generalize here, but look into the specifics. I would urge you to contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com and discuss the details so that we can provide you an appropriate quote.
Hello what would be the weight with and without desk brake?
Amjad, disc brakes have many advantages, but they do weigh more. Just looking at calipers, a set of Avid BB7 SLs weighs 580g, while SRAM Red dual pivots weigh 240g. On top of that, disc brake braze ons need to be added to the frame which add another 20g. Our lightest weight frames, like the Pocket Rocket Super Pro, wouldn’t inherently support those braze ons, so we’d need to use heavier tubing. Finally the hubs themselves need to accept a disc brake. A DT Swiss 350 front hub is 149g, but with a 6 bolt disc mounting, is 350g. The rear hub is proportionally heavier. Long story short, if you’re looking to shave every gram, disc brakes are not the way to do it.
Hi, do you export to the UK?
Mike, we ship anywhere in the world, and most certainly the UK. Please let us know how else we can help!
Hi, do you sell the H shaped handlebar? Seems to be a unique shape that no one else manufactured.
We sure do. Contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com to get one ordered!
What is the weight limit for your bikes?
Julia, all of our bikes have differing weight limits, but given that we make custom bikes, we can build to suit, too. Long story short, we should be able to support nearly anything. I’d say this is especially true with the tandems as they are rather stout. I’ve yet to run into a team we haven’t been able to support. That said, it’s probably better to discuss your specific needs than discuss this in general terms. Please get in touch and we’ll get you taken care of!
interested in a quote for a folding tandem, my wife and I ride trails we are in our 70’s so nothing rad thanks John
John, it’s always best to reach out to us directly if you want a quote, but I will be in touch!
Good morning,
I already have a Bike Friday, [The frame may be 25 years old. someone had gotten the frame and turned it into a bicycle. I modified it [ hub dynamo, homemade front carrier etc. I spent 6 weeks in Eastern Europe with it and I plan to go to Iran with the Bike Friday and the train [ if the weather is possible]] but I like to buy a other one [ a Bike Friday Diamond Llama Folding Bike]. I have three questions:
Do you know what the cost is of sending to the Netherlands and do I also have to pay import duties?
Since the bike has yet to be made [and I want some options and not others], I would like to know approximately how long it will take before the bike can be ready? Does shipping take a long time?
I also have an Appreciation Certificate for a 15% off any Bike Friday purchase. There is no expiration date on [ no 10017001]. Can I also use this certificate.
Thanks for the effort.
Regards,
Wim Velema
[whatsapp/ Telegram: +31629409449]
Wim, please contact me at walter@bikefriday.com with a picture of that certificate as well as the details of what options you’re looking for and I’ll get you a quote. Thanks!
Ken from Australia,
Comment no2 above is very confusing, here in Australia CASA will only allow passenger flights 2 x100Wh batteries per carryon luggage.
I purchased two nwt from bikefriday in 2006 and was thinking of buying you e – conversion kit to take on our holiday to ride in France, however only allowed 2 LiGo batteries would not give us much useable power or distance although would only use e-power for uphill.
Ken, as you can see from the manufacturer’s page on the batteries, they’ve seen people carry up to 12 modules before. Carolyn’s comment about the FAA guidelines below is confusing because the limit of two is based on (I’m quoting her) “batteries each exceeding 100 Wh, but not exceeding 160 Wh.” The LiGos are 98 Wh, which is not more than 100 Wh, so this does not apply. In fact, if you read the actual guidelines, you can see under “quantity limits” that there is “none for most batteries” with the exception of those batteries between 101-160 Wh. I’m struggling to find it now, but the last time I checked it¸ the IATA (the international body that provides guidance for smaller authorities like the FAA and CASA) guidelines were exactly the same. That said, if Australia is doing something different, that’s pretty bizarre. Can you provide a link to the guidelines?
Is the belt drive as sturdy and effective as the chain drive? Does it slacken over time and need changing? Are replacements easily available or are the custom made for Bike Fridays only
Vikram, the belt drive is certainly more robust than a chain. It does slacken over time and will need changing, but it will take a lot longer than a chain. Additionally, maintenance is much simpler as you simply need to keep the belt clean. No lubricants required, so it doesn’t attract dirt and grime. It’s also astoundingly quiet. The company that makes the belt drive system is Gates, a huge international company whose business has been belt drives for a variety of purposes— since 1917! Most custom bike manufacturers work with their parts and many production bikes feature their systems (e.g. Trek District, Marin Presidio, BMC Alpenchallenge), so they are by no means custom, special, or even really exotic. Also, we don’t use any proprietary components. There are no “Bike Friday parts” except for the frames themselves.
I have a Bike Friday Air Friday. I just got it, and I took it out to a club ride to see what impression I would have of it’s speed. My impression was that the bike was distinctly slower than my racing bike. The ride quality is tremendous, and I am not disappointed in the bike. However, it is more difficult to do fast club rides with this bike. I imagine that the tires or the small wheels are causing the loss of performance relative to what I’m used to. The wheel size is what it is, but the tires are easy to change. Can you suggest an optimal tire for performance riding on a variety of paved surfaces, including rough chip seal as well as smooth surfaces? I’m considering getting the 406 x 1.35 Schwalbe Kojak foldable tires. I’m looking for something foldable, preferably around 35 mm, and VERY supple. Is the Kojak the best, or is there something better?
Ken, Kojaks should do the trick if you’re looking for supple and fast. You also might consider some other Schwalbe options (which may or may not be available anymore): G-One Speed, Durano, One. The latter two are more traditional road tires (read: higher pressure, a little less supple), with the Durano being more of a trainer and the One being more of a race tire.
Can I take a stock Pakit single speed and simply rebuild the rear wheel with an 8 speed Alfine hub? Any major issues I’d run into?
Glenn, that should work without problems. It won’t be belt drive compatible, though, unless you ask for that specifically (which also costs more).
Hi how much will it cost to get it delivered to Canada?
Shakib, the prices of shipping vary greatly even among geographically related areas. That said, I can give you a good quote on shipping if you send me your postal code. You can send that direct to walter@bikefriday.com.
Is Bike Friday still operating. I have sent multiple emails and get no reply to my request to purchase a replacement bike crank
Kathryn, we sure are operating. I’m shocked you have not received a reply to your email if you sent it to the correct address. service@bikefriday.com is your best bet but info@bikefriday.com should have routed it there if you used that. I will say that if you use Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL, and even sometimes Gmail, they are notorious about incorrectly labeling legitimate mail as spam, so you might want to look in your spam folder. I would also say that your local bike shop should be able to help you just as well as us. They should have the same access to the same parts. They might even have something in stock. We run a just in time inventory system, so we most certainly will not have it in stock and we’ll need to order it, which is just further delaying things. If you need any other help, please don’t hesitate to reach out directly to me at walter@bikefriday.com.
Why not list the 2 possible folding sizes in your description?
Dont you think that’s important when the main feature of a Pakit is that you can pack it?
Im looking for a bike to go into a space in a small plane. These things are important.
How about listing the metric weights as well? Thats also kind of important when flying.
You have an international website yet even in your reply you omit the metric conversion of 28″ x 17″ x 8″
When the rest of the world sees this it just says to us, We don’t care, work it out yourself.
I like your bikes but sorry in my opinion your website lets you down.
Regards
Mike
Michael, we do list the two folding sizes, although I do admit that much of our measurements lack a metric equivalent. This is certainly an area we can improve and I appreciate the feedback.
That said, the bike industry is in particular notorious for mixing and matching systems of measurement. It is rare that I hear someone— even from a place where the metric system is well entrenched— refer to wheel sizes in anything other than inches. I find that particularly problematic since it’s actually often misleading. For example, did you know there exist 6 different so-called 26″ wheels (you know, that the ubiquitous mountain bike tire size) that are all entirely incompatible with one another?
If it were my choice, we would *all* use the metric system, but that’s another story 🙂
1. How powerful are the e-assist hubs in terms of wattage? We will be pulling a dog and a kid with a trailer and saddlebags full of stuff up hills.
2. How much capacity is there in each battery?
3. Is the bike still airline friendly if we opt for both the front and rear hub motors on one bike?
4. Will we still have room to attach a trailer with the rear hub motor attached?
5. Can we build it so that it can accept the hub motors now but actually order the motor/motors a number of years into the future?
6. It looks like 20 inches is the maximum diameter for wheels on this bike and still have it be foldable. What is the maximum allowable width? Being able to drive on sand/snow would be nice but not absolutely essential…
You’ve got me very excited here! I’ve been looking for an electric, tandem bike that I can transport with a Chevy Malibu for a couple of years now (on and off) and this looks about perfect! I’ll just have to start saving up to place an order…!
Ethan:
1. 250W.
2. Each of the LiGo battery modules is 98Wh, so the pack of 4 we usually include with the tandems is just under 400Wh.
3. I wouldn’t recommend doing front and rear motors (also, these days we’re mostly just doing fronts). We’ve never done it, so it’s a big unknown, and, as such, carries a high degree of risk. In theory, the extra 5 pounds shouldn’t be an issue with the airlines.
4. The trailer will work regardless of what’s going on with the rear hub.
5. You can add an e-assist to any Bike Friday, new or old. The bike just needs to come back to the factory.
6. 2.1″.
Let me know how else I can help (and feel free to email me directly)!
Really nice article about Korean cycling!! You are hero! I never do it solo….
We did Seoul Busan bike tour and Blue road bike tour with TEAMAX (local tourcompany)
We had a support van and guides for our group.
Unforgettable challenge!!!
I love Korea!!
Hello, I am interested in the Pakit Zen model. Do you deliver to Montreal? Also, do the front and rear hubs of this bike have sealed bearings?
Regards,
Chris
Chris, we can deliver anywhere in the world, or at least anywhere FedEx can deliver to. The default hubs are sealed, but if you’re looking for sealed cartridge bearings, that would be an upgrade option.
Hello Walter, Is the single speed Zen Day / single gear Pakit using a chain or a belt drive?
Chris, it’s a chain drive.
Do you still make a tandem that can also be a single bike?
Justin, that would be the Project “Q” model that can convert between a tandem and a single bike. It has been long discontinued. Unfortunately, I know of only one other tandem that has ever existed that had that feature, the Rodriguez 8 Ball, featuring 8 S&S couplers. I suspect it can travel, too, but I’m not sure. I would get in touch with Rodriguez about that. Alternately, search the used ads for a Q. Our user forum at yak.bikefriday.com would be a good place to start.
Hey Aaron – nice pics of Hokkaido. Glad you enjoyed Japan. I am riding my 27 speed Air Llama down here in Shizuoka-ken, Atami-shi; and coincidentally, am departing for Akita in two days to do some mountain riding. Quick question – how’s the pakiT do on the steep roads you encountered in Hokkaido (a place I spend a lot of time). Thanks, Michael
Hey hi Michael. Because of the setup using a sturmey archer 3speed hub and gates drive train, it’s a setup that is not road bike fast, but I was able to climb with ease in shiretoko. Looking back at this trip, I think the climbs in shiretoko is doable and the way the roads are designed ain’t overly steep.
We own 2 BF NWT bikes. The first one was set up as an Ebike from new by BF in 2018. The second I converted to an Ebike using a kit from Grin, including their LIGO batteries etc. We love the electric assistance offered. We have flown with these bikes twice and had no trouble re the LIGO batteries at airports. We have toured long distance with our Ebike BF NWTs and they were great to use. We have had one problem. The LIGO batteries have a failure rate much higher than that of our other Bikes, both European, two Bosch powered and one a Gazelle powered by a Tempest system. The Bosch and Tempest batteries have given faultless service over a much longer time frame than for which we have had the BF bikes. Whereas we have had to replace batteries on both our BF bikes. We are right into regular charging. We live in a very mild climate compared to North America ie no sub zero temperatures in winter. Can GRIN up the battery quality?
Dear Aaron Lin:
Thank you for sharing your Pakit vacation in Hokkaido. It was beautiful!
I have a Pakit.
Hi –
Sorry if I missed this on the site, but do the frames come in sizes? or are they fit to size via the seat post and steerer tube extension? I see sizes for the pre-loved and stocked.
Thanks,
Peter
* I see sizes for the pre-loved and stocked, but not on the individual bike pages.
Peter, we custom tailor the bike to fit the individual rider. By that, I mean that we cut the tubes of the bike to match the rider’s measurements. In other words, each bike is a different size. With bikes that are not built, they have no defined size until we get the buyer’s measurements. I hope that clears things up. Email wxl@bikefriday.com if not. Thanks!
Got it! Thanks so much!
Thank you for posting your trip. What a wonderful experience you had! I enjoyed reading about your experiences. Best of luck in your future travels.
Does the bike and trailer components fit together inside of the Samsonite suitcase?
Christopher, the bike and trailer are designed to fit into the suitcase. In fact, you can also fit fenders and front and rear racks, too!
What’s thetotal rider weight limit?
Andrew, in general we should be able to build for any team. Contact us with the specifics and we’ll get you taken car of!
Love your post! We are new to Bike Friday, actually we won’t be getting our bikes until March. But we have been searching already and doing research, trying to find a group to do some touring in Italy with. Anyone interested in forming a group for say Sept/Oct?
Hi,
I am a senior looking for a tricycle I can use. Because of a car accident, I need a semi- recumbent sitting position where the pedals are not below the regular seated position, but more in the front so my knees don’t have to go above a certain level. I’m thinking this will have to be custom made. Do you make any tricycles like this or can you custom make them?
Thanks, Cathy
Cathy,
“Custom” means different things to different people, but for us, it does not mean we build anything imaginable. We like to think ourselves as a mass customizer, meaning that we provide a huge array of custom options for the basic frame models we already provide. If you look through our lineup, you will find we don’t provide any tricycles at all. I know WizWheels in Michigan has what I think you’re looking for. Might want to check with them. If they don’t have the right solution, I’m sure they can better point you at someone who does. Best of luck!
Wonderful PakiT. Thank you, Walter, for allowing me to change the color from orange to the new sparkle green. Absolutely beautiful in the sun.. Single gear belt drive works wonderfully; it is the right choice for me. I live in a coastal city with a few rolling hills, light rail and Amtrak.
I am a mechanical engineer…the first thing I chose to do was to remove the rear wheel and examine the frame, welds and powder coat. Beautiful craftsmanship. I am over the moon pleased with the look of the bike.
I have had the bike for one day…maybe a little early for a review. l rode the bike to work and grocery shopping. About 20 miles (first day). It is an awesome commuter, especially for a backpacker. The smile has not left my face since I started riding the bike. However, it is 28 degrees today; my face might be frozen.
Any chance of the e-bike getting solar power so does’t need to keep recharging the batteries?
Hi Marianna,
I charge my e-assist BF with Solar. Have been doing since August 2019.
It does make me feel good to do so and it is and ideal 1st solar project.
For here in Oregon for year around the best set up is a 70-100 watt hour panel,
a ow cost charge controller and a 12v 100 amp hour deap cycle battery.
To charge your your bike battery you need a low cost 12v to 110v ac inverter.
Plug your regular charger for your battery into that and you are good to go in the same
charging time that you have now pluging into your house system.
I found getting the stuff off of Amazom would cost about $300 to get set up./Alan
How long does it take to build a pocket rocket?
Del, we’re usually out a few weeks with new builds, but expedite options are available if you need it sooner. Also, we may have a stock model for you. I would recommend getting in touch with us and letting us know when you need it by and we’ll see what we can do to get you taken care of. Thanks!
Alan,
I just read your blog and enjoyed thoroughly. Good going. I can’t wait to see what new bikes and creative ideas you all come up with.
By the way, there was no date that I saw on the blog. Can you add dates to your blogs?
Best.
– Donald from New York, owner of a white Pocket Rocket and a black Tandem Twosday and who in 1992 you lent a black burly tandem to me and my brother RichardI to compete in the Burley duet race. Thank you again!
Hi there
I have a tikit bought directly from you and sent to Australia where I live. I’ve only now seen this recall notice when I was googling tikit.
How can I go about getting my bike serviced and the stem replaced?
Yours sincerely,
Robbie Singleton
Robbie, you can contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com.
Nice job, i will try the same if i come to korea and get a week or two off. Sounds like a fun adventure, although i could never do it in winter like you 🙂
What is the weight of a single-speed belt drive Pakit?
Robert, it’s about 20¼ pounds for the single speed belt drive pakiT in the heavier standard frame (i.e. Mk1) version.
Fa 18 anys que utilitzo una Brompton (actualment amb un canvi Rohloff) a més d’altres bicicletes plegables, ja que en sóc un enamorat. Ara, si aconsegueixo vendre l’Airnimal Joey Endurance, vull comprar-me una Bike Friday Pocket Rocket.
Perdoneu la traducció automàtica Joan. En qualsevol cas, ens encantaria tenir-te com a client. Suposant que sou d’Espanya, però, he de dir que hem tingut poc èxit fent passar bicicletes a la duana allà. Si teniu una altra adreça fora d’Espanya (o si voleu recollir-la a la fàbrica), segur que us atendrem. Si us plau, fes-me saber com més puc ajudar.
Hi Aaron, it’s wonderful to see another Singaporean doing bikepacking. I’m thinking bikepacking in Tasmania too, wonder if you have any tips on packing, where best to camp and stock up on food/water, if you can share your GPS route. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hi Grace. Apologies that I just only got to see this and hope I am not too late to reply you. you can check out my strata route here https://www.strava.com/activities/975525494
This blog I found was exceptionally useful in my planning. https://www.biketas.org.au/giro_tasmania
Well being a city person, I realise I really needed a toilet at the very least at the campsite. Thankfully most of the campsites in Tasmania have. I can’t really remember how did I actually search for the campsites, but definitely use google maps, the above blog, or just ask around during the trip. Some campsites have drinkable water, else try to get hold on supplies when near a supermarket.
I kept my packing pretty light as I figured I may not have the stamina to toll so much stuff. Cereal bars are definitely a great way to stock up in the event I reach a campsite late and there’s no food to buy.
Some of the routes can have loads of climbing so do train well with a loaded bike and ensure u have sufficient bike spares.
Is the frame of the 2022 Haul-A-Day stiffer because of the change of the frame design or only a result of the new 1 1/8″ headset?
The newer Haul-a-Days use larger diameter tubing, especially in the stem riser (not the headset) and it is that change that leads to the additional stiffness.
I saw your tandems in this week’s email, including the Family Tandem. My Family Tandem is a triple. Do you still make that model? We sure ran that rig in a lot of configurations while the kids were growing up, usually with the youngest in a child seat — four riders. I have a pile of cranks of varying lengths. We drew much attention. I still have the bike. I may clean it up this summer and make the kids lift my dead legs on the pedals so they know what I had to do all those years.
Victor, the triple tandem is still something we (admittedly quietly) still offer. Glad to hear how much you enjoyed yours!
I have a larger stoker and I have gained weight. I am 290lbs and she is 190 lbs. I need to know the safe weight for my tandem Q. Also the weight limit for the folding Twos Day tandem.
Larry, structurally, you’d have no reason to be concerned on either model. The tandems are exceptionally strong. The biggest issue with that amount of weight on a single bike is not whether or not the frame will hold, but whether or not the captain is comfortable with safely controlling all of it.
Want to purchase low rider front rack for my Diamond Lama 2022 model w/ disk brakes
Gale, we currently have these for sale at $100. You can contact our service department to place an order. Thanks!
Ik heb er 20 jaar geleden een Bike friday weten te bemachtigen met de papieren erbij en bouwjaar 1996.Ik als een kind zo blij.Sinds kort een Bike friday met Rohloff naaf weten te bemachtigen.Bike friday love it.❤️
Hello BikeFriday Gang:
It was heat index 117 deg here. Will Bafang front hub motor work on my 2014 Packit at that temp? I don’t.
One, no-fly battery. Will it operate in the rain? Do you have any pre-owned Pakit electric set-ups? And of course cost?
‘Had a fun Google Maps tour of Hokkaido some months ago.
Roman, our home in the Pacific Northwest, luckily, has much milder ambient temperatures. However, Arizona does not and we’ve sold plenty of e-assists there. Batteries tend to like hotter temperatures, unless you’re putting them under heavy load. If you’re running in the lower assist levels and not trying to go as fast as you can up the tallest hills with the heaviest stuff, you’ll be fine. The Pacific Northwest also gets a lot of rain being a subtropical rain forest. That said, the bikes get lots of testing in the rain. And they work fine. We don’t have any pre-owned e-pakiTs in your size, but we can easily convert your bike over for about $1100 (given current prices and the specific needs you have, for anyone else that might be reading this in the future and/or with different needs). Get in touch and we’ll get you scheduled to get the work done. Thanks!
Thank you, Walter, for the Pakit e-drive environmental limits and its availability for my Pakit.
Since I bought my Pakit in 2014, I’ve gotten old ! — and shorter! But my Pakit with its perfect dimensions,
8-speeds, and French bars, rolls me around just fine.
Later on the motor,
Hello
Do you still offer the silk combination with 8 speed internal hub in the Packit version. I am a heavy weight rider at 230 lbs put loosing. Also I am 6’-1” height. What would the bike weigh to meet those criteria?
John, the Silk technically refers to a variation of the New World Tourist or Pocket Rocket that can accept a belt drive. The pakiT does come in a version that can accept a belt, but we don’t call it a Silk per se. Unfortunately, the only model that we have that would work for your weight would be the Diamond Llama and it cannot support a Gates belt drive. We could do an internal hub with it if you like, but it would need to be with a chain. Veer has a belt that can split which would render it compatible with the frame, but it’s not only something untested but the available cog sizes aren’t really appropriate for a smaller wheel.
Do your tandem bikes come with independent pedaling systems ?
Terry, the tandems can come with an independent pedaling system but there is only one manufacturer of such a system that would work on our bikes and they are not readily available.
Hell of an article Willie. Kudos.
Great to see a diamond frame again (Bike Friday classic owner)!
Great article Willie, love the creativity. Looks like a great bike. Especially the handlebars and frame. Gotta love Bike Friday for staying the path or following their mission. Good job 👏.
What I’d want to see before ordering would be a video showing the folding process. I already own a Tiket, how does this one differ? Also what is the weight? Have I missed it in the specs?
Stephen, the tikit has a unique fold unlike any of our other bikes. The All-Packa actually has the same fold as many of our bikes, including the New World Tourist, the Diamond Llama, the Pocket Rockets, and many now discontinued models. The weight and specs are listed under the “Additional Information” tab. If you have further questions, please contact us directly.
I’m looking for travel cases for our Family Tandem. I’m UK-based so importing them is probably not a sensible (or affordable) option. Would you be willing to tell me their size so I can look for a suitable pair of suitcases here in the UK.
Thanks
Simon, sometimes cases with the same internal/external measurements have wheel wells in the wrong place so the measurements alone are not always sufficient. I would suggest getting a list of the suitcases we know work for your particular year and model from our service department to make sure you get the right thing. You can contact service@bikefriday.com.
What are the actual gear inches of the 2×9? If loaded down they would need to be low for climbing… Thx
George, we should have some videos soon, but not quite yet. You can look to our other bikes for an idea of how the bike folds and packs. The uniqueness of the All-Packa lies mostly in its optimization for off road handling and for its capability in handling bikepacking gear. With 2.4″ tires and a 50/34 11-36 drivetrain, the gear inches should be 95-19″ which is nice and low, especially given the fact that smaller wheels accelerate faster, and thus climb better, than bigger wheels.
That’s 19.5 to 94.5 gear inches for 20″ x 2.4″ in case anyone else is curious! Good stuff.
Are there any videos of this bike. Some kind of demonstration videos? Thx
This just came out recently from Fixie Dave aka Dave Nice, who built his up from the frame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN9p3qpwFIM
It’s not exactly a demonstration video, per se, and is certainly not official, but you should get an idea of the bike in action. There’s also some shots of the frame being built up.
I was wondering if I can pre-order through my local bike shop Portapedal in Tempe AZ. I’ve bought 3 bikes there and would like the bike sent there if possible. Also I might have missed it but what is the tire options for this bicycle. Is the pre-order discount going to last till all 50 bikes are sold or is there a time window for the discount.
Jonathan, you’re certainly welcome to order your bike through your local dealer, as long as they are amenable to the idea. As for tires, theoretically anything is possible, but, of course, only certain things are available right now (supply chain issues, of course). Schwalbe Big Bens, Big Apples, and Super Moto-X are the options we’re regularly offering. As for the discount, it will last until all the bikes are sold, which is to say it probably won’t last too long!
How much does it weigh?
Alan, if you look under the “additional information” tab, you’ll find the answer: “Starts at 27 lbs with standard 9speed components to 38lbs when electric assist is included. Weight depends on your frame size and choice of options on your bike.”
I’m interested in your bikes. Looking at your web site, I think the Pocket Rocket would be a suitable bike for me. I’m 80 years old and my balance isn’t what it used to be. Being closer to the ground seems appealing to me. I live mostly on gravel roads as I live in rural Alaska. It appears your bikes are fitted with street tires. Is it possible to order this bike with off road tires? I doubt street tires would hold up long in sharp gravel (although some of our roads are compacted gravel with vehicle traffic). If it can’t be sold with other than street tires do you have any recommendations as to other brands of suitable off road tires?
Thank you,
Gary Sheridan
Gary, there really aren’t tires wider than 1⅜” made for the wheel size the Pocket Rocket uses, so it’s not an option on that model. Were you to order a New World Tourist, though, 1¾” tires are a standard. And if you get disc brakes, you can push the clearance to 2″.
Thank you for writing me back. I’ll look at the New World Tourist model closer. I’m pleased that Bike Friday has an option that might work for me. Since winter will be setting in here before long it will be more towards Spring before I’ll be ordering anything. In the meantime, I’ll study the model you suggested. I’m sure I’ll come up with other questions before too long. Thanks again. Gary.
I’m quite new to folding bikes. What bb standard does this have and does this work will all (nonboost) mtb drivetrains?
Kirk, it’s a 68mm wide English threaded bottom bracket. Should work with most MTB drivetrains, but keep in mind that a small wheel means lower gearing so you might not want a MTB drivetrain.
am I able to buy an All-packa frame and build it up myself with my own parts?
Ribert, sure you can buy a frame. There’s no way to order that off the website at time of writing, so get in touch with us directly and we can help you out to order one. (Edit: There is now!)
What does the framekit option consist of?
Poul, the frameset includes the entirety of the frame (main frame, rear end, seat mast, stem riser, fork) and a headset, all fully assembled together.
Hiya, I’m thinking of saving my pennies for a custom build from a frameset, but have a few questions:
1. Will SRAM XPLR (10-44) fit, or is 40T the largest where the derailleur will clear the rear tyre?
2. Am I correct in thinking the BB shell is 68mm, and that road cranks will fit?
3. What size range of outer chainrings will the braze-on FD mount accommodate?
4. What size rotors will fit?
Thank you! 😉
Hi Steven, good questions.
1. The answer depends on the derailleur design, cage length, and chain length. As the cassette gets larger, the derailleur gets closer to the ground and tire. I drew the line at 40t but that’s not a “hard” limit. I also do not recommend long cage derailleurs, so using medium cage derailleurs establishes another limit on cassette size. I suggest a front derailleur to get the widest range.
2. Correct! Road cranks provide more suitable gear ranges due to the smaller wheels than MTB cranks.
3. Roughly 40-55, though we can adjust the braze-on higher or lower if requested.
4. I strongly recommend 160mm rotors. The ratio of rotor to tire diameter is important for performance so a 160mm rotor on a 20×2.4″ is equivalent in stopping power to a 220mm rotor on a 29er.
Thanks Willie! Sounds like 1 is maybe, 2 & 3 are good, but I’m still wondering if 140mm rotors can actually be fitted, especially on the rear.
Stephen, sorry for missing your reply. The rear disc brake uses an IS tab so you can choose an IS to Post Mount adapter for a 140mm rotor. The fork is Post Mount for 160mm.
Hi, can you please tell me if a 46/30 crankset is an option with the 11-36 cassette? Thanks.
James, there are square taper FSA Tempo adventure cranks in 46/30 we could use, so not the upgraded crankset that comes with the All Terrain package, but it would get you what you’re looking for.
Ok, thanks very much Walter.
Hello There,
1. Can get with 44 tooth cassette instead of the 36 on the 2×9?
2. Is there an option for a dynmo hub? If so, how do I order with the bike?
Thanks,
George
1. No, 36t is the maximum cassette size we recommend for the longer cage derailleurs necessary for 2x setups.
2. If you speak to our sales team directly, sales@bikefriday.com, they can work with you on a full custom build with a dynamo hub. The fork will have external routing for the wiring. We do not offer the SON SL connector-less dropout at this time.
HI
We are thinking of replacing our two Pocket Rocket Pros with the All-packa. Gravel is more our thing now and we really like the look of your new All-Packa!! A couple of quick questions in regards to packing.
1. We use our Trailer/Suitcase as we do a lot of point to point cycling. Can we install a mount on the chainstay so we can use our existing trailer setup with the All-packa?
2. Will the trailer bits and trailer wheels fit in the Samsonite suitcase with the Packa or is it too chunky?
3. Can I use my foldable BF rear rack with the All-Packa?
Thanks,
CJ
CJ:
1. Yes, we have an add on hitch.
2. It should fit in the case, yes.
3. Yes, the rear rack will work.
That said, order away!
How are you getting the rack to fit? I have an All-Packa (#76/100) and the Bike Friday folding rear rack (bought with my Pocket Llama). I have tried Avid BB7 and Shimano XT brakes. In both instances the rear mounting bolt that holds the mounting bracket to to the IS tab sticks out too far to allow the rear stay of the Bike Friday folding rack to attach to the mounting point. The caliper body of the BB7s also stick out too far to allow attachment of the rack’s rear stay. I would like the rack for certain trips.
Kris, you might not have the right spacers. You should reach out to service@bikefriday.com and I’m sure they can get you sorted.
What’s the dimension of Samsonite suitcase?
We are currently using the Samsonite Novaire 30″ suitcase. Internal Dimensions are 29.75″ × 20.75″ × 13″
I need to know the price of the case with the trailer package??
Bob, at time of writing, the case goes for $450 and the trailer kit is $345.
Hello hi Dear Admin.
Could you please tell me
the front hub spacing and the rear hub spacing?
Thanks
Wilde
Wilde, the front hub spacing is 100mm and the rear is 135mm, at least given the standard rear hub. Thru axles are not an option, so quick release (or solid axle) only!
As I gather the geometry of the bike changes as it goes from smaller to larger frame sizes. I wonder how many frame sizes you have? Also how a frame size of NWT would correspond to a frame size of the All-packa? And last – would using smaller tires, say 1.75″ bring the BB too low or it’d be still usable?
Quite happy you guys keep improving on the designs you offer.
Thanks,
Nick
Nick, I think all of your questions will be answered by Willie’s blog on the All-Packa, or at least the geometry chart. You will likely also see there that you must have at least 2″ tires.
Thanks for the info and kudos for keeping the innovation going in Bike Friday!
On the picture above I see the All-Packa with some Internal Gear Hub, can’t make out which one. IGH are perfect bikepacking alternative for those who don’t mind the extra weight (and are willing to shed the extra cash).
Are you planning to offer the bike with Alfine is the frame capable of installing the Rohloff hubs?
Job well done!
Hi Nick, we limit the options we show on the website to keep the presentation from being overwhelming. So IGH like Alfine and Rohloff are available if you get in contact with us via phone or email so we can work with you on creating your bike!
I think this bike was designed for me. LOL! Any chance of leading a short bike excursion for us pre existing Bike Friday owners and those who want to try this bike before we buy?
Karen, are you suggesting we visit you or you visit us?
Both! I would be happy to host a mid Atlantic showing. Please schedule a factory tour and bike excursion. I want to be the first to sign up!
Karen, are you suggesting you want to come visit? If so, please do! However, I will tell you that the All-Packa will ride very similar to your existing Bike Friday.
Both! I would be happy to host a mid Atlantic showing. Please schedule a factory tour and bike excursion. I want to be the first to sign up!
Karen, we have no plans currently of doing any sort of showing. However, we’d be happy to have you at the factory. Drop us an email and let’s get it scheduled!
Regarding lithium batteries under 100Wh, according to CASA rules all spare/loose batteries must be secure against shorting out (ie terminals covered) and MUST be carried in carry-on luggage. I am not sure how you would go with baggage limits to carry 2-5 90Wh lithium batteries on a flight in or out of Australia. I suspect the check-in staff would give a big ‘no’ to that.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/jvxS3-0QzT4
Pete, I can understand your thinking, but there are no rules against how many less than 100Wh batteries you can carry with you. Think about it in terms of more common devices that people bring with them. Laptops are a great example. I’ve seen folks bring a whole pile of spare batteries with them. Since they all meet the regulations, they all go through. If they limited you to only one 100Wh battery, well, you’d be able to get away with your phone and that’s it since that’s a lithium ion battery, too.
Hello , could you please tell me hw much Total weight the pocket llama van Carry that is including rider and luggage.
Kind Regards , Kaya
Kaya, since you are asking about the Pocket Llama on the Diamond Llama page, I’m going to assume you are aware of the distinction and are indeed asking about the Pocket Llama. This now discontinued model could handle a rider up to 230 pounds. As for rack weight, it depends on racks, but if you use disassembling and folding racks, it’s 50 in the front and 55 pounds in the rear. If you really mean the Diamond Llama, the “additional information” tab should answer your question.
Hi Willie! Great post, and wow, what a fantastic bike. You used the igh with a belt drive on one of your prototypes, is there any chance to run Gates belt on the final version? Can the chainstay be splitted?
Answering for Willie here, but long story short, no. There is a very remote possibility that some future version might, but despite trying very hard to build that in from the beginning, it proved to be a severe design challenge given all the other requirements for the bike.
Hi, I have a few questions:
– Packed dimensions (32x24x12″) are meant with wheels on, correct? If I remove the wheels it should be a little bit smaller, right?
– Is it possible to install a rear rack? If yes, does it affect packed dimensions?
– What is the minimum tire width that can be used with provided rims? I’d like to use 2.1-ish tire.
– If I proceed with the purchase will I be contacted later for measures customizations or should I do it in advance?
Thanks.
I hope to be able to purchase one of your bikes soon. Almost time to finalize my dream.
Cheers. Giorgio.
Giorgio:
* Yes, removing the wheels will make it smaller.
* You can fit a rear rack on. Our folding rack will make packing into the suitcase possible. With regards to folding, it will increase the size, but will not inhibit the fold.
* The rims are not the limiting factor, but the bike frame. You can go up to 2.4″ tires.
* I would suggest filling out our sizing form in advance, but if you forget, we’ll get in touch afterwards.
Hi,
I volunteer at a non-profit bike recycler (Bike Pirates) and we had a Tikit with the Pac-Man clamp donated to us. We would like to find it a new home but we need to know if the re-called part was replaced. (The donor didn’t know.) The name plate says that it was custom built for “Big Trouble”
Bob, the original owner was sent a replacement stem but you would have to ask them if they actually installed it. Our service department may be able to help you determine if that happened if you contact service@bikefriday.com.
This account brings back fond memories of my trip several years ago thru Medura & RNP on my Osata, even though my tour was mostly paved from Pierre SD to Glendive MT.
Congrats to Joe and Willie
Hello 🙂
Is it possible to add another 3 bottle braze-on on the “head mast”?
Thanks,
Arthur
Arthur, we’ve generally avoided braze-ons on the stem riser as there is a lot of stress on this piece already without adding the issue of affecting it by the heat of brazing. However, we have have some clamp on bottle braze-ons. These are similar to the King Cage Universal Support Bolt, except that they aren’t built around a band clamp. You could add as many or as little as you like and arrange t hem any way you want. We sell them for $11 each.
Ah ok that makes sense. I’m glad you guys are keeping an eye out for that. That would be a terrible part to fail 😅 I’ll order a few and keep in mind to not overload it.
Thanks!
Arthur
Hello, what is the wheel base distance?
Does it change with different frame sizes?
Hi Poul, please see my blog post for a geometry chart. Yes, the wheelbase changes! https://bikefriday.com/creating-the-all-packa
Hello , could you please tell me the size of frame in the picture.
Kind Regards , churui
churui,
There are multiple pictures so it’s hard to say. Chances are they are 56cm (effective top tube) as that tends to be the most common size. In any case, we customize the fit for the individual rider, so we can get you the right thing no matter what.
Does the product support shipping to China?
Jack, we do have a dealer in China. Please see our dealer page here:
https://bikefriday.com/dealers
Hello,, Could you add brace on behind the headtube, I would like to add a front basket to bring my 10kg dogo for a ride just like haul a day.
Unfortunately, the diamond frame makes this impossible. You could always use a front basket, though, e.g. something from Wald.
Hi BikeFriday, is the hub spacing of DLlama 100mm front and 135mm rear?
100mm spacing is standard across all of our current models. 135mm rear is to be expected with discs. With non-disc hubs, the ones we usually get are 130mm, but I’ve seen some 135s. We set the spacing to the customer’s needs.
I see few comments but when something is well written, what is there to add other than another thank you?
Hello,
I noticed the nice fitting Revelate frame bag in the pictures. What model is it? Is it custom made?
-Arthur
Arthur,
To be fair, the Revelate bag is kind of squished in there, but it’s one of these:
https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/frame-bags/TangleFrameBag
A much better option is the Take A Trip bag made specifically for the bike:
https://www.takeatripbags.com/product/bike-friday-framebag/
I have a bike Saturday. I am not the original owner so I don’t have any paperwork. Do you have any papers concerning a bike Saturday? Could you put electric assist on the bike Saturday. My brother lives in Creswell, Or. Could I bring my Saturday to Greenworks and have you modify it while I visit my brother? How long would it take? thank you very much.
Thank you very Much.
Jerry Cleveland
Let me know how much I owe for any paperwork on my Saturday
Hi Jerry,
unfortunately we do not put electric assists on recumbent bicycles. If you send me your frame number, I can look at past history and possibly provide you some paper work/ info.
Hi,
my height is 182 cm, can I use 175 mm cranks with no risk to have pedal stikes ? What kind of rack can I use ? There is only 9 mm QR option for hubs ?
Patrick,
No problem with 175mm cranks. FWIW, given 50mm (approximately 2″) Schwalbe Billy Bonkers tires, the floor to center of bottom bracket height is about 26.5cm. Put another way, the bottom bracket rise is 5mm.
Regarding the racks, assuming you want the bike to pack in the suitcase, you’ll want to use the folding rear rack and/or low rider racks that we specifically make for our bikes. You can look on the New World Tourist page for more info about those. You don’t see them mentioned here because the All-Packa is a bikepacking bike rather than a touring bike. That is to say it’s meant to carry a load, but using bikepacking bags rather than racks and panniers. In other words, you’re hanging the bags off the bike frame. This ultimately is a lighter and more compact solution and one that handles much better off road. There are a few options out there for so-called mini-panniers that are meant to sort of straddle both worlds. One such option that looks like it should fit the bike and pack nicely in the suitcase is from tailfin.cc.
With regards to the front fork, we are not currently offering thru-axles, if that is your question. You could use a solid axle as an alternative to a QR, though.
Happy New Year!
Is it possible to order the Alpaka, or any of your other models, with sliding dropouts for singlespeed and geared hub drivetrains?
Thanks!
Martin, every current production model that folds except for the belt drive versions of the pakiT, New World Tourist, and Pocket Rocket has a hinge behind the bottom bracket, putting the two elements of the drivetrain on separate frame parts. Because of this, the chain slightly tensions before it loosens when folding. That makes dealing with rear facing fork ends kind of a pain, since you’d need to mess with the chain and/or rear wheel in order to fold the rear end. If you have a fixed gear, this is a requirement, of course. The simple solution on any model is to use a chain tensioner.
A really good story and one I would like to read more often.My wife and I completed just over 170,000 kms in 30 years of bike riding in all parts of the world.I remember fondly trips like Beijing to Hong Kong,All of New zealand,Fairbanks Alaska to Cabo san Lucas,The Daube from Insbruuck to Bucharest and the Black sea,The Yucatan penninsula,The Nulibor Plain in south Australia all 800 miles of it,and the most punishing of them all was from Katmandu to New Delhi in India.Interspersed over the years with long backpacking trips.We always travelled solo and camped out.We bought a Bike Friday tandem about 2013 or 14 but my wife suffered a life threatening stroke in 2015 and we never got to use it.We haven’t been able to cycle since so the message here is ,”don’t leave your dreams too late as they may pass you by”
Dear Dr. Charles, thank you for sharing you and your wife’s story. This is life.
Colour me curious. This is an intriguing bike. Looking for something that folds up to take on a sail boat.
Could one substitute a rear hub gearbox? something like the Shimano Alfine 11-Speed SG-S7001-11? Just something less to get smashed on those tiny wheels.. (I normally ride a Cotic Solaris Max 29″ wheels)
Yes, internally geared hubs are an option. Much of my prototype testing was done with an Alfine 11spd hub. A chain tensioner is still needed because of the fold, but the tensioner cage is shorter than those of many derailleurs so there is still some ground clearance gained. -Willie
Is it possible to use a dropper seat post on the All-Packa? I imagine one could shim from 28.6mm to 27.2mm.
If so, could the cable routing be internal, or would it need to be external?
Cedric, sure can. There’s not really enough of an exit from the seat mast for internal routing, so I’d go external.
Can you tell me the main differences between the All Packa and the Llama to help with decision making for which one to buy?
Gordon, put simply the Llama is more or less a New World Tourist that is designed to support people heavier than 220 pounds. The one model we have that was designed for bikepacking (especially as it relates to bags) and specifically for off road riding (although it works well on road) is the All-Packa. Hope that helps.
Beautiful bikes, do you have a distributor in germany where I could drive one?
Greetings Ange
Angelo, we do not have a German distributor, but we do have one in Belgium:
https://www.bikepacking-belgium.be/
Hi – could you please tell me the length of a Bike Friday Family Tandem, complete with wheels, unfolded?
Mike, it’s about 87.5″ for a medium size. I’ll also add that since you mentioned folding, the Family Tandem does not fold. If you’re looking for a folding tandem, you’ll want to look at the Tandem TwosDay instead.
Would the ehicle shop in Tokyo have the battery for a BF front e hub?
Doug, I don’t think ehicle has ever ordered any e-assist anything from us, but there’s only one way to know what they have: contact them directly.
I’m looking for this rear rack. I’m in Dallas, Texas
Contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com to order one!
Bought a used tikit early this week it has 349 wheels… And I came across this while researching on the bike what do I have to look for?
Bien: it would be best if you contacted our service department at service@bikefriday.com so they can help you diagnose and resolve the potential issue.
Can the All-Packa and/or NWT be set up with a Rohloff? FYI, I’m a long-time & very satisfied user of a Pocket Rocket but now doing more off-tarmac touring. Thank you!
Ted, a Rohloff is an option on all of our bikes— as long as we can get them. We can always sell you a compatible frame (see the frame option on the All-Packa, for example).
Hello. I’m getting a Pocket Rocket from 2014 with swan neck stem and wonder if I can buy a new straight “normal” stem .
I also want a compact drop handlebar, do you have that in split?
Poul, reach out to our service department at service@bikefriday.com and I’m sure they can get you what you need.
Hello, is it possible to equip the All-Packa with a belt drive an the Rohloff Spped Hub? Best regards
Rene, Rohloff, yes (see the frame option above and you’ll see an option to allow for it), but not the belt, sorry.
Can you please custom build me one with the Enviolo Automatiq shifter with Bosch or equivalent mid motor? https://enviolo.com/products/
Ujjal: No on Enviolo. We used to offer that company’s products but had numerous complaints and thus stopped offering them for the sake of our customers. Also, no on any mid-drive on the TwosDay as it needs crossover cranks to fold and they are necessarily incompatible with a mid-drive. If you don’t care about folding (or the fact that a mid-drive will make the cranks get out of sync), you can go for the Family Tandem which does break down and can work with a mid-drive (and we do have one that puts out equivalent power to a Bosch). We can also get you some other internal hub.
My height is 162cm, can I use the standard frame .
Thanks,
Long
Long: yes, because our standard is to custom build the frame, meaning we can fit practically anyone.
What a wonderful trip. I Rida a Brompton. How did you fair with the steep climbs and descents?… especially with snow.
Did you carry camping equipment as well?
Thanks
Maria Belton
12 years ago i bought an XL tandem converted to QXL from Steve Strickland. It was a beautiful tandem which my wife i enjoyed riding/touring , We rode in my home malaysia and alot in melbourne Australia. At 60 my wife stopped riding so converted the Q to single,At 77 i still enjoy riding the Q. thank you Bike Friday
Hi, is this bike also available with a mid drive tsdz2 or does it not fit?
Nik, while the TSDZ2 can technically fit, it would prohibit the bike from folding, so it’s not a combination we sell. The hub motor does just as good of a job of powering the bike, though!
I have the All-Packa and I ordered the front rack from you recently. There is a nut welded to the center of the stabilizer bar. What is this for?
Hi Valerie, the M6 braze-on on the front rack stabilizer bar is commonly used for mounting front lights. This position is low and out of the way of most bags, so it’s a great spot for seeing, and being seen.
Fantastic! I need to try that with one of my inflatables and my PakIt!
You might find this discussion interesting. Brian Wright and Liz Drotos have pakiTs configured with a trailer and a folding kayak.
Can you take the blue battery that you also sell with Bike Friday e-bike on a plane aim a vary on bag? It’s under 100 watts an should qualify.
Stuart, the LiGO batteries can be taken on carry on because they are under 100Wh, but they are not currently available while the manufacturer continues their redesign around a chip they can actually get. The blue batteries that we currently offer are not under 100Wh, so they cannot be taken on the plane, carry on or otherwise.
Hello! How heavy is the pocket llama when completely folded? I’m shipping one to a friend and am trying to estimate the shipping costs. P.S. I’m aware that the pocket llama is different from the diamond llama, I just couldn’t find another place to post my question. Thank you!
Luciani, every bike is different, so it’s hard to say. It would be best to look up the individual bike. Contact service@bikefriday.com with the frame number and they can give you an answer. Better yet: just weigh it yourself! Weigh yourself on a scale, then hold the bike and weigh yourself on the scale. Subtract the difference and you have your answer.
Hi, what would be the total weight of the bike with fender, racks (front and back) and kickstand? if the bike is configured with the heavy rider option how much varies in the weight of the bike?
BR
Enrique
Enrique, the basic configuration with fenders, racks, and kickstand would be about 28.75 pounds. The heavy rider option adds just under 2 pounds.
Sounds intresting.
What’s the spec of the disk brake and the gearing?
And I could not find the weight of the bike. How much?
Cheers from Franconia
Carsten
Carsten, the disc is typically an Avid BB5 road with 53/39 11-34 gearing. The weight of that particular configuration with the standard tubing is about 12kg.
Does Bike Friday tandem Two’sDay folding has independent pedaling for both Captain and the Stoker?
Aldwin: we do not include independent pedaling by default. It’s an option that we can include when the parts are available, as there is only one manufacturer that makes something applicable. Unless you have some physical limitation that requires it, I do not recommend it. It will limit your gearing and it will keep the captain from knowing where the stoker’s inside pedal is on turns, which can lead to disaster.
Hi, what are some differences between the Diamond Llama and the All-Packa? From the pictures I noticed that the top tube diameter on the Diamond Llama was wider, and it seems like they have difference forks.
Are they made from the same type of steel?
Can the All-Packa also be setup with a rear rack, and be capable of light loaded touring?
Can they both be modified for Gates carbon drive?
Xion, they’re really different bikes even though they have a similar visual design. The Diamond Llama is probably best thought of as a New World Tourist meant for people who weigh more than 220 pounds. The All-Packa is best thought of as the one model we have designed to work off road. The Diamond Llama, in general, has heavier tubing, though it’s the same steel alloy used on both bikes. The Diamond Llama can handle up to 2.1″ tires while the All-Packa can handle up to 2.4″ tires. Though both bikes can handle front and/or rear racks and work well for loaded touring, the All-Packa is special in that it has mounts for bikepacking gear, meaning you can carry your stuff without racks on the bike. Again, this is a benefit for off road riding. None of the All-Packa’s off road features limit its ability to function on road, though. Neither bike can handle the Gates carbon drive. If that’s what you want, there’s a special version of the New World Tourist we make. And with disc brakes, it can handle the same tire clearance as the Diamond Llama. Hope that helps.
Hi Walter and Willie
I am a new happy owner of an All-Packa frameset in L and will customize build it to myself.
What chain-line do you advice? I plan to go with a 1×12 setup with a SRAM Force AXS and ROTOR 11-36 Cassette and a Tune Crankset (originally 3-speed) with a 42 chainring on the middle bolt ring. Actually I have a White Industries BB JIS-68 BSA with 113 mm axle length … is it best for a smooth gearing chain-line or what is your suggestion?!
Second question: what is the correct diameter for the seat-post. I measured somewhat uncommon 28.6 internal diameter?!
Third question: How long is the fork and the fork installation height (including the lower headset bearing hight)
Many thanks from Germany,
Peter
Peter,
You should consult our manual on the frameset:
https://bikefriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/All-Packa-Frame-Kit-Manual-2023.pdf
There you will find you should use a 47-50mm chainline and a 28.6mm seatpost.
Regarding your final question, I presume your question concerns the headset itself. The manual suggests minimizing stack height to maximize stiffness of the front end. To that end, it references Chris King as a bad idea (upper stack 17.7mm, lower 13.7mm) while recommending Cane Creek (16/12mm).
I hope that answers your questions.
Hi Walter. Many thanks. That will help out. Best from Germany, Peter
Hi Walter
I am interested to add the Packalope Handlebar to my All-Packa built.
What diameter does the Packalope Handlebar have on it’s all 4 ends, I mean handlebars end AND extentsions end … especially to install bar-end tools and/or shifters.
Second, how much of weight load is it capable?
Peter, at the ends you’re looking at 22.2mm outer diameter, like a typical MTB bar. Tubing used is .049″ thick, so should have no problem with bar-end add ons.
As for weight limit, it’s built for a bike with a 220 pound weight limit, so I would assume that. We can make cromoly versions with larger weight limits.
Hello,
do you think it’s possible to fit the foldable Tandem in ONE suitcase?
Thank you
Sascha,
While the tandem can fit in one case, it is much more difficult to pack it away and we have no instructions for it. Since a tandem implies two riders and since each passenger of a plane has a baggage allowance, it typically works out well to use two suitcases. It also allows the storage of accessories and extra items.
Hi, I have some ideas for light gravel and dirt riding I would like to do with this bike after work day. I was wondering if you can recommend a nubby offroad tire that fits 16” wheel?
Luc, the widest and most aggressive tire that will fit is a 1.375″ Schwalbe Marathon. For what it’s worth, I’ve ridden mine on plenty of gravel. It’s not what the bike was designed to do but it can do it!
Hi guys, I have a ten year old? Ticket, I want tincrease the size of my front chain ring, do you supply larger ones than standard? If not what can you recommend?
Oskar, we do sell chainrings larger than 53 tooth in a 5 bolt 130mm bolt circle diameter, up to about 60 teeth. You can contact service@bikefriday.com to order one. Make sure to specify what size you want!
The “click here” didn’t take me to Tuscany, it took me to three articles about urban rides.
I would have loved to read about the Tuscan ride as I have driven huge sections of the route, since my wife is a Tuscan archaeologist, but have never had an opportunity to ride it.
This summer I managed a few day rides around Lund, Sweden, where I was marooned after my credit cards were compromised. Last summer I got from Lund to the northernmost point of Denmark (Skagen) and part way back. Got COVID in Frederikshavn, and after a week of quarantine set off again into the teeth of nasty weather and COVID aftereffects, so took the train to Germany, ferry to England, and rode a big chunk of England and then the Isle of Man, then back to Harwich and from Hook of Holland to the German border. Last trip before COVID was from Thessalonika to Corfu then up the Adriatic Coast to Rijeka. But at the age of 81 that sort of ride on my New World Tourer is getting strenuous! Next spring I have tentative plans to ride from Lund to Genoa, ferry Genoa (or perhaps Naples) to Sicily, ride Sicily, then ferry to Tunisia, see northern Tunisia then back to Lund somehow, depending on time available.
That link is to the author’s blog, which includes 68 pages of rides (with about three articles per page), including the one in question. You just have to find it. Luckily, I found it for you:
https://citybiketrips.com/2019/05/05/tuscan-hill-towns-april-10-18-2019/
We are interested in this bike. What is your lead time for fulfilling an order? How long would we have to wait?
In Christ, Walter Saul
Walter, the best I can do is give you a rough approximation. We’re generally about 2-3 months out. Our schedule is dynamic, so if we get a sudden glut of orders, it can be pushed farther out, while adding extra capacity can pull things in. We also can, at times, accommodate expedited orders for a fee. The best way to answer your question is to consult with one of our salespeople and tell them your particular timing needs.
Is there a rear cargo rack that will fit the All Packa? If so can you recommend a particular rack?
Carolyn, we have a rack that sells for $195 at time of writing that is made out of cromoly, brazed and powder coated (just like the bike!) that folds down into a flat package for easy packing in the suitcase. That’s not only the best fitting solution, but the most robust one. That’s what I’d recommend. You can contact service@bikefriday.com to order one.
Hi, just bought a pair of 20 x 1.25 Kenda road tires for my pocket rocket – just what I wanted… but
never going to fit!!! So is there a an alternative that you know fits that’s a little wider than the IRC 20 x 1/8.’s
That come with the bike ( maybe a little more tread) ?
I’m a little gun shy about ordering another set of tires after this fail so sources you think are reliable Wouk be awesome too!
Henry, the major fit issue you had there was most likely a diameter issue and not a width one. There are two different 20″ wheels and it sounds like you bought the smaller of the two. A generality you can follow is that if the width is expressed in decimal (e.g. 20 x 1.25″), then you likely have a 406mm tire (that’s ISO/ETRTO sizing, measuring the bead seat diameter) which is too small. Keep looking for fractional widths (e.g. 20 x 1⅛”) to ensure you get the correct 451mm tire. Usually, there’s a XX-YYY printed on the tire, too, where XX is the ISO/ETRTO width in millimeters and YYY is the bead seat diameter in millimeters. So make sure there’s always a -451 on the tire somewhere. That all said, you should be able to handle up to an 1⅜” at least assuming the tire isn’t knobby. Some options in that size include the Tioga PowerBlock, Arisun XLR8, Maxxis DTH, Vee Speedster, and the Maxxis Torch.
hello,
im 90 kgs and im. planning to use fully loaded bike for touring, do you recommend go for the version for heavy riders or the normal option is enough? the 260 pounds are rider only? or rider + luggage + bike not to exceed the 260?
thanks!
would it be possible to habe a shimano deore xt 3×10? would you recommend it?
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Requesting a set of fenders that will fit a 1996 model “Companion” BikeFriday (20″ Wheels) if still available for purchase. Thank you.
We have SKS Velo 55 fenders available for $35 or you can check in with your local bike shop for some. If you want to order from us, please email service@bikefriday.com.
I have a Pocket Rocket Pro and am in need of fenders. The SKS Velo 55 fenders are out of stock on SKS website, so I need to order them from Bike Friday. In addition to the fenders, do this come with any mounting hardware?
Jacquolyn, mounting hardware is included. Note with the bikes with 451 wheels, we trim the stock fender a bit to make it fit with the front brake, so you probably want to order direct from us. Contact our service department and they can get you taken care of.
im thinking about switching to a sturmey archer IGH with a coaster drum brake. will the pocket rocket frame accept the coaster brake arm mounting on the chain stay?
Donald, we have had no experience with it, but it should work.
thanks! i’ll post a pic when i get it installed!
Hi,
Do you still have this suitcase available for purchase?
What is the model and size?
Thank you.
Thiti
Thiti, we currently offer the Samsonite Novaire Extra Large.
People smile when they see my bright pink bike. Even fully loaded, it gets an extra touch from bus and train conductors. I’ve wiggled it in between seats, packed it in the suitcase for trips to Japan and Hawaii. And now I have its sister NWT bike in Candy Raspberry with e-assist. Best thing to come out of the Covid pandemic.
I’m interested in the Pocket Rocket with E-Assist
and have these questions?
1. How is the battery mounted to the bike post?
2. Can the battery be easily removed so it can be charge
separately & reduce the bike weight when lifting it to the car.
3. Does it have an LED screen display?
4. How many levels of E-assist does it have?
5. What is the Amp Hour (Ah) for the battery?
This is really so sad!
How to order the travel suitcase?
Johnny, Please contact our service department at service@bikefriday.com to order your TravelCase.
I am riding a bike friday rocket pro with 451 wheel size! I need to know what is the real wheel hub size. Is it 130mm or 135mm? Thanks for your help!
Joo Ki Hong, I would measure what you have because it can vary. As a general rule, if the bike has rim brakes, then it is probably 130mm and if it has disc brakes, then it is probably 135mm. However, I can certainly think of exceptions to those rules.
As an owner of an original All-Packa along with another AP that a friend has, I am fully aware of the problem you are addressing with the “offset”. Are there any “recent” solutions for the problem on the original frames? Narrower tires and crank spacers have been installed to “sort-of solve” the problem but not an ideal solution.
Thanks,
Victor
Part of a ‘Bike Friendly Culture’ * is unfortunately Theft.
Moving away from the Unaffordable Bay Area and College towns helped,
so did ‘overbuying’ strong er than minimal ….. locks…
*and people with drug habits to support thru theft
Hi Victor, since I released the original All-Packa, Microshift has released the Advent Super Short drivetrain. The ultra short cage provides the greatest chain/tire clearance I’ve tested with a multi-speed derailleur drivetrain. Tip: The recommended cassette limit of 38T is a hard limit, unlike with Shimano derailleur limits. I chose not to offer this drivetrain because of the limited range and proprietary cable pull ratios, but it is the clear best for clearance.
Also, while a 49mm chainline provides the best shifting performance, I have successfully pushed the crankset chainline out to 52mm on the 2022 All-Packa during testing for greater tire clearance. Big/Big cross-chaining with a double is not recommended at that chainline.
Thanks for riding an All-Packa and I wish you have many great adventures,
Willie